HICUZ 94

Copyright 1990 et seq, Donald Rowe

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CORRECTION to data included in HICUZ 93 

In the Tim McCarthy and Jane Mahoney family - their son, Peter, married Mary Cooney at Notre Dame de Montreal, 26 Sept 1826 – thus arvd before 1826. They were in Bytown (now Ottawa) in 1830 where I suspect he was one of the many Irish involved in building the Rideau canal which opened in 1832. This insight courtesy of third cousin Linda Maitland.

Another correction to HICUZ 93 – Relates to the Jean (John) McCarthy who died 26 Dec 1831 in Cap Sante at age 65 (born 1766), Cap Sante Parish, film 1289953, 1812 – 1837. The parish records state this Jean MacKarty was from County Kerry, Ireland. This suggests he was not the John McCarthy who married Mary Carroll – both of whom were from County Cork according to other records.

(HI CUZ 27)  I provided some incorrect Shanaghan family information. By way of introduction, it will be helpful to show which “Irlandais” emigrated to Portneuf County in Quebec together, and when they came, as of that 1842 census. Here’s how it looked across several closely spaced parishes. Listed by number of years present in Canada, as of 1842:

                        Graves’ settlement, Seignory of Neuville, Concessions of St John, St Mary

            21 years – Robert Cameron, from Scotland, family of 9, 1 from Ireland, rest born Canada.

                           Roderick Mullins, gardener from Ireland

            16 years – Denis Shanaghan, 10 in fam, 6 Irish, 5 born Canada, 1 not enum w/ family

                            Stephen Slattery, 8 in fam, 3 born Ireland, 5 born Canada

            15 years – John Lawless, 6 in fam, all born Ireland

                           John McCarthy, 6 in fam, 3 born Ireland, 3 born Canada

                           Michael McCarthy, 5 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 3 born Canada

 Michael Gaffney, 8 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 1 born Canada, 1 not enum w/ family

            12 years – Patrick Burns, 6 in fam, all born Ireland

                           John Rotchford, Ireland, mason

                           Mary Graves, Ireland 

            10 years – Owen Love, 2 in fam, both from Ireland

                           Roger McGahan, 2 in fam, both from Ireland

                           Patrick Slattery, 4 in fam, all from Ireland

                           Charles Cleary, 6 in fam, 3 from Ireland, 3 born Canada

                           Martin Lawlor, 5 in fam, all born Ireland

                           John Cleary, 5 in fam, 3 born Ireland, 2 born Canada

                           David Graham, 3 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 1 born Canada

            9 years – William Shanaghan, 5 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 3 born Canada.

                        Bourg Louis, First Range

            13 years – Cornelius Shanaghan, 9 in family, 3 Irish, 6 born Canada.

                        Graves’ Settlement, Seignory of Neuville, Concession of St Charles

            20 years – William Raisin, 3 in fam, 2 Irish, 1 born Canada

17 years – Denis Duggin, culler of timber, fam of 5, 5 from Ireland

                Thomas Corcoran, 8 in fam, 3 Irish, 5 born Canada

            16 years - Arthur McClintock, 8 in fam, 2 from Ireland, 6 born Canada

            15 years – Richard Driscoll, 7 in family, 3 from Ireland, 4 born Canada

                           James Corcoran, 3 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 2 born Canada, I not enum w/ fam

                           Patrick Love, 10 in fam, 4 born Ireland, 6 born Canada

Notice that Denis and later William Shanaghan settled in the same area, along with two McCarthy families (John and Michael). The years present data suggests the Denis Shanaghan family emigrated to Canada in 1826, while Cornelius’ (still looking for a family connection) emigrated in 1829, and William’s in 1833. I feel that Denis, Cornelius and William Shanaghan may be siblings (note the caution in my statement). As Denis and Catherine left Ireland with four children born there, I doubt they would have left a teenage son (William) behind, and then named a second son William while the first survived. Cornelius and his wife had a child before emigrating from Ireland, so I feel they would want to settle near welcoming family. I don’t think I’m stretching things much. I’ll have to look at commonality of names for the children of these three.

Denis and Catherine Shanaghan had a son John, born 1814 in Ireland, which suggests they married about 1812 to 1813 in Ireland. I am hoping to find records stating their origins and marriage records in Ireland.

A recap of the early data for Dennis and Catherine (McCarthy) Shanaghan family, from Canadian 1831 and 1842 Censuses, @ Cap Sante. In the 1831 census the family consisted of 10 members, with 6 born Ireland, 5 born Canada. One member was not enumerated with the family. I believe that family member to be Michael Shanaghan, born abt 1810/1815 in Ireland, m Alice/Ellen Tracey; he died 18 Aug 1835 (his widow remarried). As of 1842 Census, the family had been in Canada for 16 years, thus had arrived in 1826.

                        Known and suspected family members –

            Michael, b abt 1810/13 Ireland, m Alice/Ellen Tracey abt 1830, prob in Canada;

                        Michael died 18 Aug 1835, his widow remarried

            John, b abt 1812/1813 Ireland, m Ellen Mylar 6 Feb 1844 @ Ste Catherine (My

paternal great grandparents)

            David, b abt 1810/1815 Ireland, godfather to Jane McCarthy, dau of Mary/Daniel

            Julie chr 14 August 1841, Ste Catherine 

            Mary, b abt 1815/1817 Ireland, m Daniel McCarthy 23 Feb 1835 @ Ste

Catherine

            Denis, b abt 1821/23 Ireland, m Anna Cleary  - Denis a trader in 1864

            Margaret, b abt 1824/26 Ireland or Canada, m Denis O’Neill 25 Jun 1844,

                        Notre Dame in Quebec City

            Hannah, b abt 1828/29 Cap Sante, m Michael Cleary abt 1862

            Catherine, b abt 1828/30 Canada, m James McManus 6 June 1848 Notre Dame,

                        Quebec City

            William, b 5 Apr 1831 Cap Sante, m Mary Coughlin William chr 17 Apr 1831,

Cap Sante. FHC film number 1289953, Cap Sante parish records, volume 6

 - 1826-1837

            Bridget/Elizabeth, b abt 1833 Canada, m Alexander McWilliams 9 Apr 1850 Ch

                        of England – present @ wedding, Denis Shanaghan (father or brother?)

In Canadian 1831 census for Fourth Range, Lake St. Joseph (St Raymond)

            Cornelius Shanaghan, five in family (ARRIVAL DATA)

1842 census -

Denis Shanahan, pg 498, line 20. ten in family – in Canada 16 years (arvd

1826). Six born Ireland, five born Bas Canada. One male (5-14); two

females (5-14), one male (14-18); one male (18-21); one male (21-30);

one male (30-60); one female (14-45); three females (14-45).  Owned 180

acres, of which 60 were under cultivation.

Dennis and Catherine Ellen (McCarthy) Shanaghan, my paternal great, great grandparents – arrived there 16 years before, thus family arrived in 1826. The Shanaghan’s lived next to John McCarthy family in the 1831 and 1842 censuses, suggesting family connections through Catherine Ellen (McCarthy) Shanaghan.

Seignory of Bourg Louis, First Range –

            Cornelius Shanahan, pg 499, line 12 - nine in family, three born Ireland; six born

                        Bas Canada; here 13 years (arvd 1829). Owned 90 acres, of which 6 acres

                        were under cultivation. 

Analysis of The Ships List data on ship arrivals to Quebec

Recent review of data available from The Ship List website  http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/index.htm  provides a great store of data now available. Perhaps I missed it on previous research, or it may be new. The data includes substantial background data on maritime history, the perils of travel by sailing ships, and the listing of ships arriving at Quebec early in the 1800s.

Several avenues seem apparent in terms of identifying the ships on which ancestors sailed to the New World. These avenues are listed below in the order of review.

            A.  Names of ship passengers

B.     Destination within Canada (Trois Rivieres, Portneuf, Ste Catherine parish, etc)

C.     Embarkation point (in Ireland)

D.    Dates established by Canadian census data as to possible ancestors arrival

Analysis of the data over the years 1817 through 1829 gave few Aha moments, save the one below.

I have asked the authors of this data for permission to include.

EUREKA!!! – I was surfing TheShips List - and thought I had found possible TREASURE. Check it out http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/Arrivals/1824a.shtml. I searched the webpage entries of immigrants from Cork arriving at Quebec in 1824 and found - the brig Albion arrived 6 June 1824 from Cork, under Master Stewart, with "Mr McCharty, brother and wife and family."  I thought this might be John McCarthy and wife Mary Carroll (noted in the 1825 Ste Catherine records (a year later)) with family of six, and a brother. See below in GREEN.

1824
May 29	bark Alfred	Clark	17 April	Cork		to W. Hamilton / in ballast
June 02	ship Æolus	Thomas	09 April	Waterford		to Froste & Co. / in ballast
June 02	brig Jane	McGrath	11 April	Waterford	3 settlers	to Sheppard & Campbell / in ballast
June 02	bark Sir James Kempt	Patterson	17 April	Cork	18 settlers	to Sheppard & Campbell / in ballast
June 02	brig George IV	Thomas	12 April	Waterford	17 settlers	to Froste & Co. / cargo, dry goods
June 03	bark John Howard	Smith	10 April	Cork	Mr.& Mrs. Campbell and Servant, Mr. Seymore.	to Campbell & Sheppard / cargo, Wine &c.
June 03	ship Ceres	Doeg	11 April	Waterford	30 settlers	to W. Price / salt &c.
June 03	bark Elizabeth	Charlton	56 days	Cork	Mr. Wright	to order / in ballast
June 03	bark St. Charles	Leslie	03 May	Cork	Mr. Robinson & 30 settlers	to Campbell & Sheppard / in ballast
June 04	ship Nassau	Grosard	47 days	Waterford	11 settlers	to W. Price / cargo, salt
June 04	brig Hewisons	Haddard	17 April	Waterford		to Mr. Jackson / in ballast
June 06	brig Albion	Stewart	25 April	Cork	Mr. McCharty, brother and wife and family	to W.& G. Pemberton / in ballast

I thought a response from a cousin might answer the question of whether this McCharty family might be ancestors, but her response related to a later 1825 voyage of the Albion.

I asked a group of Canadian and American cousins what they thought, and to suggest any ideas for analyzing ship arrival data to identify arriving McCarthy or other ancestors. This instance was the first time I'd seen a familiar name as a passenger. Does the fact that his name is identified perhaps suggest something as to his status? I would expect that our ancestors were working class or perhaps reduced farmers suffering from recent English tax law changes requiring payment in cash, rather than kind.

1826 ship arrivals

The Ships List website indicates that in 1826, as of 1 June of that year, that within the previous 8 days, 85 percent (3000 of the total of 3529) settlers arrived in Quebec. In 1825 2517 settlers arrived in Quebec on 224 ships, while in 1826 a total of 3529 arrived on 232 ships.

Ships arriving in Quebec in 1826 included:

Date arvl         Ship                 date deprtd     port deprtd      # settlers          consigned to   

28 April           bark Trio          25 March         Waterford       28                    Sheppard &

Campbell

15 May            ship Volunteer 29 March         Cork                26                    J. S. Campbell

24 May            brig Wansbeck 13 April          Cork                not shown       H. Cowan

   “                   AEolus            13 April           Waterford       28                    Frost & Co

   “                   City of Waterford  12 April    Waterford       207                     “

27 May            bark Wallsend   23 April         Cork                not shown       not shown

28 May            bark John Howard 20 April    Cork                169                  James

Atkinson

   “                   Argyle             13 April           Waterford       141         William Price & Co

30 May            brig Pacific        15 April         Cork                117                  W. Pentland

   “                   Trafalgar          26 April           Waterford       107                  to order

3 June              bark Thomas       20 April        Cork                241                  J. C. Campbell

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The brig Albion was used in transporting other settlers over a period of years to Quebec for settlement either near Quebec, or further west (Ontario). I found little specific information on the Albion, other it was registered (insured) with Lloyds from 1824.

The Peter Robinson report (see HICUZ 93) provided information on the origins of those who settled out near Ontario. It reflected that those immigrants were recruited from  “the towns of Fermoy, Mitchelstown, Doneraile, Charleville, Newmarket, Kanturk, Mallow and the villages within that circle”  and from other towns “North of the Blackwater River in Cork.”

A question which comes to mind - did our Irish ancestors’ from Cork come from the same region. I expect that if family members had preceded our ancestors, those family members who followed might settle in the same area.

In researching the arrival of our McCarthy’s to Quebec a fascinating family tradition was reported by third cousin Pat Hall. Her email (long ago) said – QUOTE  My records show John McCarthy for the first time in Cap Sante, where he and Mary Carroll were at the marriage of their son, Michael to Catherine Slattery.  It is their descendants that moved on to St-Basile.  Long ago, (and I can't find the document), Gerry Neville explained to me that McCarthy’s showed up in Cap Sante, where they were known as the "Wild Geese".  These settlers were part of a contingent of settlers that had come from France, where they had sought refuge. UNQUOTE

A second email (years ago) from Pat Hall contained more insight/tradition about the Wild Geese and the McCarthy’s. Pat noted – “it is generally held that this McCarthy, Daniel, was one of the “Wild Geese” who fled to France from Ireland in 1691 after the defeat of the Battle of Limerick. It is one of the 130 Irish families in New France before the British Conquest. One of his sons married Ursula Vermette in St Augustin in 1736. No one to date has been able to make any connection between this family and the family of Timothy McCarthy and JaneMahoney.” 

The Flight of the Wild Geese refers to the departure of an Irish Jacobite army under the command of Patrick Sarsfield from Ireland to France, as agreed in the Treaty of Limerick on October 3, 1691, following the end of the Williamite War in Ireland. More broadly, the term "Wild Geese" is used in Irish history to refer to Irish soldiers who left to serve as mercenaries in continental European armies in the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries.

Many of the Irish troops in Spanish service returned to Ireland after the Irish Rebellion of 1641 and fought in the armies of Confederate Ireland - a movement of Irish Catholics. When the Confederates were defeated and Ireland occupied after the Cromwellian conquest of Ireland, around 34,000 Irish Confederate troops fled the country to seek service in Spain. Some of them later deserted or defected to French service, where the conditions were deemed better. At the time of the Napoleonic Wars there were still three Irish infantry regiments in the Spanish army: Irlanda (raised 1698); Hibernia (1709); and Ultonia (1709). However in the later years of the existence of these units only the officers were Irish or of Irish descent, the men being predominantly Spanish or other foreigners. All three regiments were finally disbanded in 1815.

Source:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Wild_Geese

A Brig has two masts with square sails on both masts.

http://www.mightyseas.co.uk/marhist/workington_harrington/nymph.htm

The Albion was a 305 ton snow, 2 years old, Captain J. Mills (Lloyd's Register, Green Book, 1826).

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Separate records showed that the Albion was sailing from Britain to Quebec before 1823.

On the question of how these immigrants traveled from Quebec to their homes in the various parishes of St Raymond, Ste Catherine, and St Basile traveled to those parishes from Quebec City, do you believe they went by ship to Cap Sante, then on to their parishes, or did they travel overland?  Fourth cousin Yves Marcotte he suggests “they were traveling overland. Very bad road conditions: narrow footpaths; fording river...”

1861 census for St Basile parish, pg 15, line 33 –

            John McCarty, age 50 (born 1811), listed with family members:

            Mary Buckley, age 40 (born 1821)

            John McCarty, age 24, born Canada 1837

            Jeremiah McCarty, age 22, born Canada 1839

            Michael McCarty, age 20, born Canada 1841

            Mary McCarty, age 18, born Canada 1843

            James McCarty, age 16, born Canada 1845

            Dennis McCarty, age 14, born Canada 1847

            Jane McCarty, age 12, born Canada 1849

            William McCarty, age 10, born Canada 1851

            Helene McCarty, age 7, born Canada 1854

            Catherine McCarty, age 5, born Canada 1856

            Joseph McCarty, age 3, born Canada 1858

            Patrick McCarty, age 2, born Canada 1859

1861 census for St Basile parish, pg 16, line 36 –

            Hugent McCartey, age 52, born Ireland (1809), listed with family members:

            John McCartey, age 27, born Canada 1834

            Dennis McCartey, age 25, born Canada 1836

            Margaret McCartey, age 20, born Canada 1841

            Michael McCartey, age 17, born Canada 1844

            Mary McCartey, age 11, born Canada 1850

HICUZ 26 - Shanahan research - Received another helpful and informative e-mail from Yves Marcotte of St Basil, Quebec. He noted that most of St Basil's early settlers bought their land concessions from a rich tobacco merchant, John Graves, who owned and ran a large lumber mill in St Basil. John Graves bought the land, which became the "Ranges" termed St Jean, Ste Marie, St Charles, and Ste Madeleine, from Joseph Brassard Deschenaux, who was the Seigneur de Neuville as of Feb 10, 1828. The lands were given by France's King to selected clergy and noblemen, who then could sell/settle the land.  William Shanahan (husband of Julia Prendergast and (??) brother of great grampa John Shanahan, bought his concession (lot number 15) from John Graves' widow, Mary Green, on 13 April 1836 for 90 argents (coins), as noted by the public notary, Martre Laroche. Yves said that the earliest settlers in St Basil looked to Cap Sante, rather than St Raymond.

The lands of New France, as Canada was originally called, was colonized by settlers carefully selected by the French government. In this respect New France differed dramatically from British colonies in North America, where the British government was only too happy to get rid of dissenters, criminals, neer-do-wells, et cetera - to what would become America. New France, and Spanish colonies also, thus represented areas of support for the mother country.

McDonald family research - I have scanned several letters from Nancy’s maternal grandfather, Captain John Angus McDonald, USMC to his wife and daughter in 1927. The scanning is complete, but reading the letters was moving. They cover his deployment within Nicaragua in a time of Civil War and revolution. They read very much like the epic movie Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark. I intend to eventually convert the letters to a Word document format and share them as segments in future HICUZ Blog posts. I trust you’ll find them fascinating.