HICUZ 93
Copyright 1990 et seq, Donald Rowe
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McCarthy family research
- I felt the need, unbidden and unrecognized, to revisit some data concerning
my ancestors in Canada .
The data concerns when the first of my Shanaghan and McCarthy ancestors arrived
in Quebec . I owe, as we all do, a
debt of gratitude to fourth cousins Yves and Sophie Marcotte of St Basile
parish, Quebec for the research
they put into the census records of that parish. “Les recensements civils (1825
a 1901) de Saint Basile de Portneuf” is the book’s title. That source is
available from Yves and Giselle Marcotte at: 290 Rue Rivard, Saint
Basile , Quebec , Canada
I started this particular review to find and list the earliest
arriving McCarthy’s in Portneuf County Quebec to their homes in the various parishes of St
Raymond, Ste Catherine, and St Basile? Do you believe they went by ship to Cap
Sante, then on to their parishes, or did they travel overland? Fourth cousin Yves Marcotte, noted for his knowledge of
this region, suggested “they were travelling overland. Very bad road
conditions: narrow footpaths; fording river...”
The 1825 Canadian census for Cap Sante, the
riverfront city near St Basile parish, indicated there were 17 new families in
the “new settlement which commenced in 1821 for Irish Europeans under the
direction of Edouard Hale, Esquire.” In that census there were few names of
Irish origin that are immediately recognizable as in my family line (Larkin,
Miler/Mylar, Cleary, or Shanaghan), though they undoubtedly tie to other
families by marriage. One McCarthy family was noted in that census – John
McCarthy as head of a family of six.
McCarthy discoveries
My paternal great, great grandparents Denis and wife
Catherine Ellen (McCarthy) Shanaghan and family, were not in the Canadian census
of Cap Sante for 1819, nor in 1825. They were present in the 1831 census,
reflecting their arrival after 1 May
1825 . I tried to determine the exact birth date of their daughter
Hannah Shanaghan, born 1829 in Canada ,
to refine the exact dates of arrival. Hannah’s birth date remains elusive as of
September 2012.
As mentioned in HICUZ 91 additional effort took place to find
the death certificate of Catherine Ellen (McCarthy) Shanaghan, looking for her
parents names. Combining that data with a partial list of records for McCarthy
families in Ireland
may help identify additional records to determine their origins. The death
record for Catherine McCarthy, on 13
March 1865 , stated “died in that parish, at the advanced age of 68
or thereabouts.” The age at death and date suggests her birth in 1797. Source:
St Basile records, film 1293168, page 139. Neither her parents’ names nor
origin in Ireland
were given.
The death records for Denis Shannahan stated - “buried in
the cemetery of that parish, the widower of the late Catherine McCarthy, died
at the advanced age of sixty nine years.”
Present at the burial were Eugene McCarthy, John McCarthy,
William Shannahan and a great number of others who did not sign (the record
book).” Source: St Basile records,15
July 1868 , film 1293168, page 1230. Neither his parent’s names nor
origins in Ireland
were given.
Third cousins Pat Hall and Linda Maitland indicated in emails
long ago that the McCarthy’s came from County
Cork County
Cork County
Cork
Were the McCarthy's of Ste Catherine
parish related to those of St Basile parish? A couple of questions and data
points come to mind, if you have a few moments.
1. A John McCarthy
died of heart disease 1861 in a Ste Catherine shanty. How was he related to the
John McCarthy who married Mary Carroll? Was this John McCarthy a brother, or
uncle, or the John McCarthy of interest? I can’t find the source for this info.
2. Is Timothy McCarthy
(marr Jane Mahoney) a brother to John McCarthy (marr Mary Carroll)? As
both Timothy and John were born in County
Cork
3. Is the Jean (John) McCarthy who died
Cousin Pat Hall provided some insight – QUOTE Our first concrete record
of McCarthy’s in Ste-Catherine (or Village
of St. Patrick Canada , so he would have arrived with six sons and a daughter (I
think I have the count on the children correct). All remained in
Ste-Catherine except Michael (probably the second son); Timothy refers to
him as "away from the Province" in his will in 1847 (I have found a
family in New Brunswick that could be the missing Michael but no proof at this
point). UNQUOTE
John McCarthy who married Mary Carroll had this family,
which arrived before 1825:
John
McCarthy b abt 1802 Cork , m Mary
Buckley
Julia
McCarthy b abt 1802 Cork , m Robert
Cameron
Michael
McCarthy b abt 1807 Cork m
Catherine Slattery
As the 1825 Cap Sante census, Ste Catherine parish (Village of St. Patrick
Third cousin Pat Hall long ago shared
some of her research in Canadian records. In those files a new name, David
Shanaghan, appeared as the godfather at the baptism of Jane McCarthy, baptized 14 August 1841 in Ste Catherine parish, Portneuf
County , Quebec 23 Feb 1835 in Ste Catherine parish.
Early data for the Dennis and Catherine (McCarthy) Shanaghan
family from Canadian census and parish data in 1831 shows the family consisted
of 10 members, with 6 born Ireland, 5 born Canada. One member was not
enumerated with the family. As of the 1842 census, the family had been in Canada
for 16 years, thus had
arrived in 1826. Since Catherine’s maiden name was McCarthy her presence
in this area might have been a reason for related McCarthy families to settle
in Portneuf County
The census records data researched and preserved by Yves and
Sophie include data on the land holdings around St Basile parish, which provides
additional details of the initial Irish surnamed owners of lands in the parish
of St Basile. A review of census records for St Basile parish did not provide any
suggestions of McCarthy origins in County
Cork
1825 Cap Sante parish census – no Shanaghan’s were listed
for Ste
Catherine parish, a John McCarthy family noted, six in family. Thus this
McCarthy family arrived before 1825.
Also noted in the 1825 census of Ste Catherine de
Fossambault Parish (Village of St
Patrick) was a Thomas Landers (as head of household with a family of 9) along
with the entry for John McCarthy (family of six), a Daniel Buckley (with family
of 6), and a James Lawless (with family of 4). These are families who
intermarried in our “family.”
1831 Cap
Sante, Rang St Jacques census –
Michel
McCarthy, page 437, line 16; farmer owned 180 acres, of which 8 acres
were cultivated –
lot 437 A, line 16. five
in family – one male (18-21);
one male (21-30);
one male (60 plus); one female (14-45); and one female
(45 plus)
Ste
Catherine parish, Fourth Range
Timothy McCarthy b abt 1780 Cork
marr to Jane Mahoney, b abt 1786 Cork,
eleven in family in
census. He d 18 Apr 1847
Ste Cath; she d 23 Apr 1846
Ste Cath. Their
family follows: (Pat Hall data)
Peter b abt 1801 Cork
m Margaret Cooney 26 Sep 1826, Notre
Dame de Montreal.
He d 16 Jan 1851 Ste Cath
John b abt 1802 Cork
m Mary Leaghey b 1816 Kilkenny
David b abt 1810 Cork
Daniel b abt 1812 Cork ,
m Mary Shanaghan 23 Feb 1835
Ste Cath
(Mary dau of Denis and
Catherine (McCarthy) Shanaghan)
Eleanor (Ellen) b abt 1814 Cork
m Thomas Landers 2 March 1835
Patrick b abt 1816 Irlnd (prob Cork )
m Mary Daley bef 1834.
Mary b 1811 Irlnd
Denis b 1825 Irlnd m Mary McCabe 15 Feb 1847 Ste Cath
Cornelius b 1827 Irlnd m
Margaret Driscoll 17 Jan 1843
Ste Cath.
She born after 1822
Irlnd.
Birth of Cornelius above (1827 in
Irlnd) shows family arrival abt 1827
A question remains; who was not identified – 11 in family vice the 10 identified.
This Timothy McCarthy was not a son
to the John McCarthy who married Mary
Carroll, but I
suspect he may be a relative.
Cap
Sante parish records - FHC film1289953, Volume 6, 1826-1837; 5 Sep 1831 . M17 - Marriage of Robert Cameron, Scottish
farmer of this parish, fils maj of Jacques Cameron, famr and Grace Glass of
County ?? Scotland and Julie McCarthy, fille maj of Jean McCarthy
and Marie Carroll from another parish. Dennis Shanahan, servant de pere and of
Brien Irwin, friend of Michel McCarthy, her brother, servant de pere and of
Jean McCarthy, autre frere. Signatures Dennis Shanahan; Robert Cameron; Brien
Irwin; Michael McCarthy; John McCarthy.
This
record confirms John McCarthy, his wife Mary Carroll and their family had
arrived in Canada before and were alive in 1831. Subsequent data for their sons
Michael and John, and daughter Julie below confirms family arrival abt 1827.
(AA) Ste Catherine
parish records document the marriage of John McCarthy to Mary Buckley 10
Feb1836. This injects a conflict, noting the groom as “son of age of late
John McCarthy and Mary Carroll” suggesting they were deceased at that time
(unless she survived him and the record really only shows he was
deceased). This suggests death of John and/or Mary (Carroll) McCarthy
before 1832. FHC film number 1294635, Volume 1, 12 Nov 1832 – 25
Dec 1836 .
(BB) Mary (Carroll)
McCarthy (b abt 1775) died April of 1859 in St Basile parish, as a widow. She
lived in St Basile at that time, probably with her daughter Julie who married
Robert Cameron. Robert Cameron and Julie McCarthy married 5 Sep 1831 in Cap Sante, suggesting that was
Julie’s parent’s home at the time and both her parents were alive in Sep of
1831.
Here are my thoughts on death of John McCarthy
Mary (Carroll) McCarthy died April of 1859 in St Basile
parish, as a widow. Mary lived in St Basile, probably with her daughter (CC) Julie who married Robert Cameron. Robert Cameron and
Julie McCarthy married 5 Sep 1831
in Cap Sante, suggesting that was her parent’s home at the time of the marriage
and both her parents were alive in Sep of 1831.
Cap Sante parish – a Jean (John) McCarthy, died 26 Dec 1831 @ 65 years (born 1766) -
Cap Sante Parish, film 1289953, 1812 – 1837. I suspect this John was the husband of Mary Carroll,
based on the marriage records of John McCarthy to Mary Buckley (AA), the death record of Mary Carroll (BB), and
marriage data (CC) above.
1842 census
–
Graves Settlement, Seignory of
Neuville, concessions of St John
and St Mary –
Michael
McCarthy, page 498, line 19 – five in family, 2 born Ireland ;
3 born Bas
male (5-14); one male (14-18); one
male (30-60); one female (14-45). Owned 90 acres, of which 30 were under
cultivation.
Graves Settlement, Seignory of
Neuville, concessions of St John
and St Mary –
John
McCarthy - Pg 498 of census, line 18 – agriculturist, six in family;
3 born
1827) –All
Catholics; 2 boys 0-5; 1 boy 5-14; 1 girl 14-45; one woman 45 plus; one infant.
The arrival dates above for the families of Michael and
John McCarthy confirms they arrived in one season, perhaps on one ship(conjecture).
The arrival dates and the proximity of their homes suggest a family
relationship.
Graves Settlement, Seignory of
Neuville, concessions of St John
and St Mary –
Owen
McCarthy, six in family; 2 born Irlnd, in Canada
nine years (came 1833).
Owen McCarthy b 1809 Ireland m Elizabeth Dean/Low/Love/ abt 1830/32 in
Ireland . Elizabeth born abt 1807 in Ireland . He was buried 25 Dec 1889
St Basile. She d and was buried 29 Oct 1859 in St Basile. Their family is below:
1. Denys (Dennis) McCarthy bapt 18 Feb 1835 , Cap Sante
2. Helen (Ellen?) McCarthy, b abt 1840, prob Cap
Sante – m John Love 12 January 1858 St Basile.
3. Marguerite McCarthy, b abt 1841, prob Cap Sante.
Buried 20 Dec 1886 St
Basile
4. John McCarthy b abt 1840/44 Cap Sante or St Basile, m Mary Ann Shanaghan
4.
Mary McCarthy, bapt 30 Nov 1850 St Basile
These
Cap Sante and St Basile parish records show the Owen and Elizabeth McCarthy
family settled first in Cap Sante and later moved to St Basile. The
arrival date above for the family of doesn’t suggest a link to the previously
mentioned McCarthy families. As a side note, Eugene and Owen appear synonymous
are first names. I am looking for help connecting the family of Owen
McCarthy to other McCarthy families.
Mr. Hale’s settlement in the
interior of Barony Portneuf –
J… McCarty, pg 536, line 13,
farmer, two in family, both born Ireland .
In
Canada 11 years
(arvd 1831),
one male 30-60; one female 45 plus.
Owned
200 acres, of which 20 acres were under cultivation.
This
J McCarthy family’s arrival date shows this was not the John McCarthy who married Mary
Carroll.
1847 – St Basile
parish records, pg 1, S 3 – Michael McCarthy, interred 2 Feb 1847 , deceased yesterday “aged about forty
years, husband of Catherine Slattery. Present: Robert Cameron, Esquire and John
McCarthy, who have signed with us.”
1851 – Ste.
Catherine census Fourth Range
Cornelius McCarthy, b 1827 Irlnd
m Margaret Driscoll 17 Jan 1843
Ste Cath. She
born Cork
after 1822.
Timothy,
age 8 (b 1843) Ste Cath
Michael,
age 6 (b 1845), Ste Cath
Dennis,
age 4 (b 1847) Ste Cath
Cornelius, age 1 (b 1850) Ste Cath
Edward
Nielon, ward, age 15, County Clare
Ste.
Catherine census Fifth Range
Patrick
McCarthy, age 40 (b 1811) Cork m
Mary Daly, age 41 (b 1810) Cork
Jane,
age 17 (b 1834) Ste Cath
Sarah,
age 15 (b 1836) Ste Cath
Timothy,
age 7 (b 1844), Ste Cath
Celina
Dosons, ward, age 4, Anglican, born Quebec
Ste.
Catherine census Third Range
Cornelius
Hennessey, age 50 (b 1811) Cork m M.
McCarthy age 40 (b
1811) Cork .
1861 census reflects spouse as Ellen, born 1812.
Betsy age 18 (b
1833) Cork – 1861 census reflects
her as
John
age 17 (b 1836) Ste Cath
W.
age 15 (b 1836) Ste Cath
(twin)
Cornelius age 15 (b 1836) Ste Cath
Helen
age 10 (b 1841) Ste Cath
Catherine
age 8 (b 1843) Ste Cath
Michael
age 4 (1847) Ste Cath
Mary
Ann age 2 (b 1849) Ste Cath
J
age 1 (b 1850) Ste Cath
No data as yet shows a connection of the M. McCarthy above
as a relative to other McCarthy families under investigation. Can anyone help?
Ste. Catherine
census Fourth Range
John
McCarthy age 50 (b 1801) Cork m
Mary Laghey age 35 (b 1816)
Kilkenny
Timothy
age 19 (b 1832) Ste Cath
John
age 15 (b 1836) Ste Cath
Jane
age 13 (b 1838) Ste Cath
Thomas
age 9 (b 1842) Quebec
Mary
Ann age 7 (b 1844) Ste Cath
Patrick
age 5 (b 1846) Ste Cath
Cornelius
age 3 (b 1848) Ste Cath
Denis
age 1 (b 1850) Ste Cath
Ste.
Catherine census Fourth Range
Dennis
McCarthy, age 31 (b 1820) Cork
m Mary McCabe, age 22 (b
1829) Quebec
Jane age 4 (b
1847) Ste Cath
Timothy age 2 (b
1849) Ste Cath
James Neilan,
ward, age 12 (b 1839) County Clare
Ste.
Catherine census Sixth Range
Thomas
Landers age 37 (b 1814) Tipperary ,
m Eleanor McCarthy age 34
(b 1817) Cork
(1861 census shows her as Ellen)
Thomas Landers
age 16 (b 1835) Ste Cath
Johanna “ age 14 (b 1837) Ste Cath
Jane “ age
10 (b 1841) Ste Cath
Timothy “ age
8 (b 1843) Ste Cath
Elinor “ age 6 (b 1845) Ste Cath
William “ age
2 age (b 1849) Ste Cath
A record from St Basile parish records covers the death of
Mary Carroll on 1 Apr 1859
at around 84 years (b abt 1775), the widow of John McCarthy. This confirms he
died before 1859.
1861 Ste Catherine
census –
Patrick
McCarthy, age 55 (b 1806) County Waterford
Margaret
Kelly, age 55 (b 1806) County Monaghan
Anastasia McCarthy, age 21, Ste.
Catherine
Edward Neilan, age 25 (b 1836) County
Clare
(ward of Cornelius
McCarthy and Margaret Driscoll)
Notice both Cornelius McCarthy (1851) and Patrick
McCarthy (1861) mention Edward Neilan as a ward. Does this suggest a family
connection between these two McCarthy’s?
Summing
up arrivals of McCarthy families
Dennis and Catherine (McCarthy) Shanaghan – arvd 1826
John and Mary (Carroll) McCarthy, and children John,
Michael, Julie – arvd 1827
Timothy and Jane (Mahoney) McCarthy – arvd abt 1827
Owen McCarthy and Elizabeth
(Low/Love/Lane/Dean) McCarthy – arvd abt 1833
Where did the Irish settlers in Portneuf County
From earlier research - A look
at this Peter Robinson Settlement, which “principally settled Ontario
with Irish in 1823 and 1825. These settlements were undertaken by the British
government to alleviate the prospects of famine in Ireland
in that period due to continuing crop failures, including that of potatoes. The
failures were increasing the flow of Irish (and Scots) into English cities at a
time when population pressures were great. “Assisted emigration” was tried,
with Peter Robinson appointed to lead the expeditions.
Most of the emigrants were
Catholic peasants from North of the Blackwater River in Cork, but some
Protestants and Catholics from other areas were also selected. 307 families
were chosen, with no person to be over 45. All would be given land, tools,
seeds for crops, and would be transported to Canada
where they could own the land, practice their religion, and participate
politically.”
The Peter Robinson settlers were
“to receive 70 acres, for which an annual quit rent was to be paid to the
Crown, at 2 pence per acre, every six months. Supplies to each adult included
“one pound of salt pork, one pound of flour per day, one peck of seed corn, 3
bushels of seed potatoes, a cow, a handsaw, a kettle, an iron pot, an auger,
axes, 100 nails, two gimlets, and three hoes.”
307 families comprised the group
in 1823, while 2024 people went in 1825 in nine ships.” I extracted/summarized these details from: http://home.eznet.net/~kinsella/genealogy/research/robinson.htm
Relevant Robinson Settlement information – QUOTE
Peter Robinson Report of 1824 London
2nd April 1824 . National
Archives of Canada :
MG 24 B 74, 1-4 and 1-5, microfilm reel M-141 see also M-140. British Parliamentary Papers, 1825 XVIII,
(131), pp.359-361: EMIGRATION FROM THE SOUTH OF IRELAND TO THE CANADAS. AN
ESTIMATE of the Sum required for facilitating Emigration from the South of
Ireland to the Canada ’s;
for the year 1825.UNQUOTE
The question which comes to mind is whether our Catholic
Irish ancestors’ from Cork came
from the same region. I expect that if family members had preceded our
ancestors, those family members who followed might settle in the same area.
The 1851 census of Ste Catherine parish also showed these
counties as the origin for Irish families in that parish: Wicklow, Wexford, Tyrone, Waterford,
Kilkenny, Cork, Fermanagh, Dublic, Queen’s, Westmeath, Tipperary, Donegal,
Carlow, Limerick, Antrim, Monaghan, Derry, Kildare, Sligo, King’s, Longford,
Cavan, Mayo, and Down.
The Peter Robinson report provided information on the
origins of those who settled out near Ontario .
It reflected that those immigrants were recruited from “the towns of Fermoy,
Mitchelstown, Doneraile, Charleville, Newmarket, Kanturk, Mallow and the
villages within that circle.”
Apparently Peter Robinson’s efforts to recruit settlers for
the Ontario area were publicized
and there were assurances given that additional settlers would be welcome. It reassured
those others “anxious to know whether, in case they liked the country, there
would be room for their friends, and whether they would likewise be granted
lands, and enjoy the same benefits and privileges which were now offered to
them.”
The report additionally stated that “there was room enough
in Canada for many more than would ever come from Ireland, and that if they
were industrious and sober they would be able, in a few years, to send for
their friends and relations themselves, if no public assistance should at that
time be given to emigrants.”
Check out, and let me know your results, if you’ve used the
following:
Irish Canadian Emigration Records,
1825-1849.
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