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Copyright 1990 et seq, Donald Rowe
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MLFHS: Irish Family
History Foundation's Online Research
Has anyone had any dealings with the "Irish Family History Foundation's Online Research Service"?
If so, was it useful
and how much does it cost. They offer an initial 10 pages free but I cant
discover what a 'Page' will contain. Is it a copy of the original
document, a detailed index and would there be several results on the same
page. As my initial search showed up 38 likely instances for the chap I'm
interested in, I would like some idea as to what I'm letting myself in for.
> Have Fun, Look wide
I've used them a few times. If I recall correctly, they charge 5 Euros
per record, but have lower rates for bulk purchases.
This past March, they instituted a new credit system. For example, for 5
Euros you get 25 credits, or 25 free searches.
You can learn more about the new credit system and costs at:
http://www.rootsireland.ie/index.php?id=78
Their search criteria is quite flexible and enables one to search for
parents' names, etc. In fact, using the parents' names fields, I was
able to locate all records for my SULLIVAN line (parents and all
children) born in Kerry in the 1830s and 1840s in great detail, down to
the parish level.
It's pricey, IMO, and wish they'd institute a flat annual fee as
Ancestry does, but generally worth the money.
> Have Fun, Look wide
I've used them a few times. If I recall correctly, they charge 5 Euros
per record, but have lower rates for bulk purchases.
This past March, they instituted a new credit system. For example, for 5
Euros you get 25 credits, or 25 free searches.
You can learn more about the new credit system and costs at:
http://www.rootsireland.ie/index.php?id=78
Their search criteria is quite flexible and enables one to search for
parents' names, etc. In fact, using the parents' names fields, I was
able to locate all records for my SULLIVAN line (parents and all
children) born in Kerry in the 1830s and 1840s in great detail, down to
the parish level.
It's pricey, IMO, and wish they'd institute a flat annual fee as
Ancestry does, but generally worth the money.
MLFHS: New In the Member
Area - St Mark, Cheetham MIs
Further to my earlier message I have added another 350 names from 106 memorials at St Mark, Cheetham to the member area index.
Further to my earlier message I have added another 350 names from 106 memorials at St Mark, Cheetham to the member area index.
(Cheetham is an area in
Manchester where my Wroe ancestors lived.
MLFHS: Irish Family
History Foundation's Online Research
Has anyone had any dealings with the "Irish Family History Foundation's Online Research Service"?
Has anyone had any dealings with the "Irish Family History Foundation's Online Research Service"?
If so, was it useful
and how much does it cost. They offer an initial 10 pages free but I cant
discover what a 'Page' will contain. Is it a copy of the original
document, a detailed index and would there be several results on the same
page. As my initial search showed up 38 likely instances for the chap I'm
interested in, I would like some idea as to what I'm letting myself in for.
An example of the information that you get on a *particular* baptism
record includes:
Name
Date of birth (if available, most often blank)
Date of baptism
Address (usually home township, if available, sometimes blank)
Parish/District
Gender
County
Denomination
Father
Mother
Occupation (if available, often blank)
Sponsor 1 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Sponsor 2 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Informant 1 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Informant 2 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Marriage records:
Date of marriage
Parish/District
County
Husband's and wife's:
Name (maiden name of wife)
Address
Denomination
Occupation
Age (if available)
Status (bachelor spinster, etc.)
Husband's and wife's:
Father's and mother's names
Address (if available)
Denomination (if available)
Occupation
Witness 1 name
Witness 2 name
I haven't requested any death records yet, so don't know what's
included, but assume it's similar to the previous records.
A *page* of results includes:
Source ("Church Baptism", for example)
Surname
First name
Year
County
Hope this helps.
An example of the information that you get on a *particular* baptism
record includes:
Name
Date of birth (if available, most often blank)
Date of baptism
Address (usually home township, if available, sometimes blank)
Parish/District
Gender
County
Denomination
Father
Mother
Occupation (if available, often blank)
Sponsor 1 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Sponsor 2 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Informant 1 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Informant 2 (if available, often blank on earlier records)
Marriage records:
Date of marriage
Parish/District
County
Husband's and wife's:
Name (maiden name of wife)
Address
Denomination
Occupation
Age (if available)
Status (bachelor spinster, etc.)
Husband's and wife's:
Father's and mother's names
Address (if available)
Denomination (if available)
Occupation
Witness 1 name
Witness 2 name
I haven't requested any death records yet, so don't know what's
included, but assume it's similar to the previous records.
A *page* of results includes:
Source ("Church Baptism", for example)
Surname
First name
Year
County
Hope this helps.
MLFHS: Irish Certificates
24th January 2013 - GRO Doubles Price of Certs but Local Registration Offices Stop Charging Search Fees
24th January 2013 - GRO Doubles Price of Certs but Local Registration Offices Stop Charging Search Fees
Civil registration certificates were yesterday doubled in price by the Republic's Civil Registration Service (CRS), from ten euro to 20 euro. Genealogists were stunned by this 100% increase. In the current fiscal crisis, the Republic's government is actively looking for any way it can to increase revenue and the production and supply of certificates was obviously seen as a soft target. The increase was sprung out of the blue, with absolutely no warning at all!
However, there is some good news. Through successful lobbying by CIGO, local registration offices have been informed by the CRS not to charge the public a two euro search fee in addition to the charge of four euro when supplying uncertified copies of register entries. The cost of these uncertified copies of register entries remains unchanged. CIGO had brought the overcharging issue to the attention of the Dublin local registration office and to the CRS on a number of occasions previously and is now thankful to see that this unwarranted charge has now been dispensed with.
The waiving of this 'charge' has effectively reduced the price of
uncertified (plain) copies by one third.
GRO means General Records Office, the UK and Rep
of Ireland equivalent of our National Archives and Records Administration
(NARA).
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Scott Rowe has been researching the Italian roots of his
grandmother Gerri (Sassi) Rowe.
Vincenzo, Mauro, and their sister Agnes.
Scott found that Agnes died at age 18, and that she and
Vincenzo came together to stay with Mauro who had arrived earlier. Vincenzo Sassi
arrived in Boston, MA on the ship Aller 02 May 1900 from the port of Genoa-
manifest #00083443. Scott’s research, on his Facebook page, includes a photo
(at age 26) of Joseph Rowe and his wife Teresa (Tamborrel) Rowe … they were my
uncle/aunt and the brother of Scott’s grandfather (my uncle) William Rowe, MD.
On www.familysearch.org other info – Mauro Sassi's wedding 25 Oct
1906 in Boston, MA. It states he was
born 1875 in Italy, his spouse was Delmina Salmi, dau of Mariano Salmi and Rosa
Balugani. On the marriage record it showed Mauro (Vincenzo, and Agnes) parents
were Massimiliano Sassi and Oliva Cantori. Check out his Facebook data ….
Thanks Scott.
Captain John Angus McDonald USMC letters 1927
Deciphered and transcribed by Donald Rowe … Captain Jack’s
wife Marjorie May (MacKenzie) McDonald and daughter Barbara McDonald live in
USMC housing at a base in Port Au Prince, Haiti. Captain Jack’s age while in
Nicaragua was 49, and Barbara is Nancy’s mother.
While transcribing these letters I was taken by how, if I
imagined myself in his locale, they made me feel I was with Indiana Jones in
the Andes.
9 PM
Leon, Nicaragua
May 20, 27
My own darling,
I am going to try and send you a few lines before I retire.
We arrived here late yesterday and from the time we left the ship until a few
minutes ago this red man has been a busy one.
We landed at Corones from the ship about 2 PM but about 3
PM. And arrived here about six PM in Box
cars … 38 miles from Coriato.
And now we are in the heart of the red fang Country meaning
the liberal side. Tales from Arabian
nights – would not compare with this place… Two sides are fighting each other
the Liberals and the Conservatives.. and the Marines are on the outside looking
in.
Since last evening 400 from each side turned in their arms.
The liberal forces are against the President of Nicaragua. And the
Conservatives are for him. And both sides have no use for the US. Marines are all our Nicaragua has more arrive
at Coracito tomorrow with
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Col. Berkley from Quantico.
My darling now for the news from yours truly. I leave here
tomorrow Saturday May 21 with 200 men including a Machine Gun Platoon ??? the 5th
Battl, with 30 ox teams carrying our supplies to establish a Post in a place 75
miles from here in the mountains. The name of the place is Esteli, Nicaragua.
It will take us a t least 7 days to make the trip on account of the ox teams,
no railroad connection, just a road.
The Colonel gave me this Command as he appeared to have
faith in me for some reason. We are sent there to create friendly relations,
and to protect the people in the district of Esteli.
I am the district commander, and I have orders from the
General to use my own judgment. The people there are friendly, Spanish and part
Indian . Climate very heavy I am told.
My orders were changed before I left the ship. And leave me
Marjorie I have been some busy Ombre since I landed.
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I seem to be equal to most anything for “ok” and as long as
the powers above have confidence in me.
I will do my best.
My supplies after I establish the post will be sent to me by
ox teams. So you will now darling when
the mail is delayed that its through no fault of mine.
Saw George Moise (??SP) yesterday on my way up here. He has
75 men guarding a town half way from here to Corinto. He leaves for the States
soon, We will all be back about August
or before. I have daring most wary this is ace in the game.
Capt. K and Barnary also Dr. Yancey remain here.
My darling I am rather tired and must be up at 5 AM and
under way at 6 AM. Good night Marjorie. Kiss our darling for me.
I love you both so.
Your Jack
Esteli Nicaragua
June 10, 1927
My own darling girl,
May 20th was the last date that I sent you a
letter and that was the evening before we left Leon. A great deal has transpired since then, and
if I could remember all details I believe it would fill a small volume.
We left Leon on the morning of May 21st with 200
men and 33 Bull Carts and drivers, 2 Buses to a cart, where our (efficient)
Quartermaster Dept shoved ??? 6 to a cart and 4 in reserve. The Bull carts were
for the transporting of food supplies, ammunition, Machine guns, and the
officers luggage and men’s’ effects, ect.
Under ordinary conditions we should have made the trip in
six days, But it took us 15 days, and a cow road that no white man had ever
traversed. The conditions that was sometimes unbearable, mud, rain, terrible
roads, cold, and rainy weather, Lice, fleas,, and a lot more of damnable things
PAGE TWO
too numerous to mention.
What was the Chief reason for all this you may ask? First of all was the
lack of knowledge of the powers above of the Country they sent us over, The big
hurry do this and that, at any cost, by orders from those who do not have to do
it themselves.
Poor management by the Quartermaster Dept. in Leon of only
supplying only two Bulls to a cart when we should have at least eight. The
advance could not afford to get far ahead of the carts on account of Country
which had been at war with itself for a year. And we had to have our food
supplies and bedding where we made camp for the night.
The Carts moved so slow, some days we made less than 8
miles. At one time we had to wait 3 days to get the carts over a mountain. We
commandeered about 75 bulls enroute, and believe me the QM Dept. has to foot
some bill. In those mountains it rained near every
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Night, and very cold.
In the day time very hot, at the moment before leaving Leon Major Hoyt
was ordered by the Brigade Commander in Managua to command the outfit. He was
in command until we reached a place called Trinidad about 20 miles from here,
was around to Managua, by ???? message to report the f??? in person. That left
me in Command.
All the men Considering what they went through, found
through “ok.” I lost about ten pounds,
otherwise “ok.”
Well we finally arrived here at 630 AM June 4, And took over
this town sent the Marines escorts and Bull carts back June 6, And now I am 100
men 4 officers including myself – here, Lt Kimeling (?SP), Lt Lehayer (?SP),
and Dr. Townsend. Since our arrival here I have not had a minute to call my own
not even to write you a line.
The distance we covered from Leon
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To here is supposed to be 75 miles. It felt more like three
hundred.
As soon as we arrived we took over the town and the small
Liberal Guard that was in Charge of the town.
Marjorie this town is four thousand feet above sea level.
Population about 6,000, Climate mild in day time and cold at night. People here
have never seen American troops before. And they ??enre rather timid. But things are fast growing over that.
After establishing guards in the town, and quarters for the
Officers and men. Had to wait 2 days before all the bull carts arrived. Now we
have everything under control, the people have protection, and they have opened
up all shops and business that was frac??? At a stand still for neary a year,
during the war days. We are in absolute control of this town and districts.
Nothing moves unless we say the word. Imagine Marjorie the town dark for over 7
months. We had lights the first night here
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And the Marines are trying to place the ice plant in
Commission.
Marines are all over Nicaragua especially in the larger
towns. My Company here is attached to three different outfits, Haiti; 11th
Regiment, Leon; and the 3rd Battalion Managua for food and all
supplies.
I have too send to-morrow June 11, five bull carts to
Sebaco, a distance of 20 miles for rations and other supplies. Mail will be
sent and then relayed to Matagalpa and Managua, to Corinto from there by train,
And then boat.
Our only means of convoy is by mounted horses and Bull
carts, from one town to another.
I commandeered 15 horses and saddles for use of the mounted
patrols in the town. The 3rd Battalion has given me permission to
purchase 24 mules for $1560.00 dollars, and I am allowed $500.00 monthly to buy
food not supplied by the Government.
Planes drop messages here each day
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From Headquarters, no place to land. About all the officers
who are not in China are down here. Capt. Lewis A J is post exchange officer in
Managua. Lt McCullough dropped me a message Everybody sent regards to you.
The Marine Corps – slogan – Marjorie is the Marine Corps
have the situation well in hand. And we are trying our best to please two
Governments.
I have two interpreters (natives) and my office is one busy
place. I often wonder how I get away with it all. But some-how I manage to keep
out of jail.
We are here on a friendly mission to help the people to
establish a new Government that will have peace and security for all. Apparently
they are all satisfied to have troops here, And we will do so our best to
protect them. There are there own worst
enemies too many kinds of politics, Liberals, Conservatives, Bandits, who rob
slave and kin and a few others who are too ignorant
PAGE SEVEN
To understand what it is all about. I believe darling as far
as the Marines are concerned that about three Months will see us on our way
back to our former stations.
And I think we did the wise thing by keeping our little home
in Haiti.
I received three dear letters from you Wednesday in mail
dropped by a plane. I am glad to know that you are making the best of
everything. I will soon be out for good. And until we meet again we must both
try and make the best of bad matters. May God grant that you and our darling
Barbara be protected. Please take the best of care of yourselves.
Don’t worry over me, I am and will be “ok.” I am taking the best of care of myself. And I
don’t feeling better in my life, as long as I can feel assured that you and
Baby are “ok.” But if anything would
happen to either you or Barbara ??? much would not matter.
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I have a nice room in my Headquarters Building a Marine to
look after my room, good food that costs only a few cents a day. And as other
expenses, Booze is out of my line. It doesn’t mix with anything good in life.
My job here Marjorie is a big one, And I am going to try and perform it to the
best of my ability. I miss you Marjorie and our darling Barbara more than you
can tell. Nothing would make me do anything away from you that would make you
(???link a you).
Play the game, and then you can tell and look any one in the
eye and tell them to go to ___
I never in all my life hated to do anything so much as I did
hate to leave you and Barbara.
I can see her now on the steps that morning I left,
wondering in her dear little mind what it was all about. All the faces, And her
dady leaving I knew I had to go. And I could
???? ???? enough.
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don’t let her ever while I am away not very far away from
you. Not that I am more or less settled I will write you often. Don’t worry if
you don’t hear from me as often as you think you should. Remember we are about
50 miles from the Honduras border. No railroads, no boats nearer than Corinto,
And the only way at the present time to get mail out is by Bull carts or
mounted.
I am and expect to have ready in a few days a Contrivance
for the planes to pick up lighter packages such as mail. And that will keep
lots in sending mail.
I have written a lot, but I am afraid it doesn’t make very
good reading. But I am sure the main
thing to you is darling, is to know that I am “ok.” The climate here is
delightful, And we are all Comfortable situated. I can see you all this ???
sitting on that attractive porch, And I suppose wondering what your husbands
are doing. Capt K, Lt Duncan(?SP), Jones, Murray, Dr. Neely
PAGE TEN
Captain Barnaby and Major Hoyt all in Leyon (Leon). Poor old
McDonald Keinart and Barnaby had to go. Then the young Captains, namely
Beantoro (?SP) Harrison, and all the rest left behind had to remain to uphold
the honors of the Brigade. About 150 men, Commanded by Col. Meyer Bass,
a few majors, Capts and 1st and Second Lts. Well such is life. I
often wonder if the powers that be have it in for me when they give me
assignments like I have had in the past. But it isn’t so bad here as I thought
it would be.
I package Barbara shoes came in the mail that brought your
letters. I sent it to you. And the pictures enclosed where taken in Haiti the
day we left.
Dr. Yancey managed to stay drunk all the trip to Leon. And continued the motion in Leon.
Please tell me when you answer this how you are getting
along. And all the Gossip from Haiti. Talking about Haiti Marjorie it has it
all over Nicaragua.
And I will be mighty glad to see it, And my girls over
again.
PAGE ELEVEN
I am soon going to say good night. We had about 100 Rifles
turned in to us here, And about 400 Rounds Ammunition.
All the people are disarming all over the Country. Nothing
to fear here, 100 Marines is equal to two thousand natives (And they know it)
And as I said before we will soon be on our way to Haiti.
Good night darling.
Kiss our darling for me,
And please take good care of yourself.
Give my Regards to Mrs. K and the children,
All my love to you
Marjorie from your husband who wishes he were with you.
Good night
9:30 PM, June 10, 1927
