HICUZ

Saturday, September 15, 2012

HI CUZ 91

HICUZ 91

Reminder, your acceptance of this newsletter signifies that you will not use its contents to alter, in any form or way, the historical religious beliefs, no matter what they were – or were not – of family members mentioned herein.

By grievous error in the last Blog I somehow did not mention Ross Gordon Gerhart III of Ambler, PA. He is the preeminent researcher and chronicler of all things Gerhart and Gerhard. He is the coordinator of the annual Johann Peter and Elisabeth Schmidt Gerhart Family reunion, and author of “The Johann Peter and Elisabeth (Schmidt) GERHART FAMILY of Earlington, Franconia Township, Montgomery County. The Two Hundred Fiftieth Anniversary of the Gerhart Family in America, 1739 27 August 1989,” published by Gateway Press, Baltimore, MD. This is a limited edition, 500 copies only book registered with the Mennonite Library and Archives of Eastern Pennsylvania. Mr. Ross Gordon Gerhart III, 231 Ambler Avenue, Ambler, PA 19002-5903.

The reunion is scheduled for the last Sunday of each August at Christ German Reformed Church at Indian Creek Church and Cowpath Roads, near Telf Franconia Township, Montgomery County, PA. Each Reunion includes an annual picnic and festivities.

Mayflower connection

The descendants of William Thomas and Marion Littlefield Rowe (Don’s Uncle and Aunt) can trace their ancestry to the arrival of the ship Mayflower. Many thanks to Michelle (Rowe) Perlette for sharing. Michelle used www.ancestry.com for this tree data starting from the Mayflower.

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George Soule came over as a manservant

had a son named John Soule who

had a son named Moses Soule (m. Mercy Southworth) who

had a son named Jedediah Soule (m. Tabitha Bishop) who

had a daughter named Deborah Soule (m. Ambrose Hamilton) who

had a son named James Soule Hamilton (m. Mary Webber) who

had a son named Benjamin Hamilton (m. Eliza Ross) who

had a daughter named Caroline Augusta Hamilton (m. Stephen Frye Bennett) who

had a daughter named Lydia E. Bennett (m. Mayall Littlefield) who

had a daughter named Marion Littlefield (m. William Thomas Rowe)....

I think you probably got the rest. I have the people who married the first two written down at work but I didn't bring it home. There is also a notation that I found (but I didn't have time to follow it through) that read that " Deborah Soule's grandmother Mercy (Southworth) Soule was the daughter of Edward and Mary (Peabody) Southworth. Mary Peabody was the granddaughter of John and Priscilla(Mullins) Alden who came to Plymouth on the Mayflower in 1620." If this is true then our family is descended from John Alden as well (which makes us related to Henry Wadsworth Longfellow and, unfortunately Dan Quayle :) ) John Adams and John Quincy Adams were also descendents of John Alden. There are college scholarships available for descendents of George Soule and John Alden and it would be great if the family knew about this...Isn't the internet wonderful! I wish I had this information before I went to college :) I am absolutely fascinated by our family genealogy. I have found that unfortunately most people my age have no idea who they are descended from and really don't care. UNQUOTE

Rowe Family Tree ancestors from Canada, Irish origins

From cousin Linda Maitland:

How very nice to hear from you after all this time and how wonderful that you will have more time for genealogy in the near future.

Re the McCarthy’s coming from Cork - our branch of the McCarthy’s came from Cork for sure. My grandfather said this and the 1851 (Canadian) census confirmed it. As to where, we don't know. It may have been a city though as the first two generations (father and sons) who arrived in the 1820s could sign their names very legibly. All of our McCarthy names are too common to be sure we've found the right ones on a ship's list except for Peter McCarthy. Peter is a rather uncommon McCarthy name. So if you ever see a Peter McCarthy, born abt 1800, keep me in mind!

I haven't done any work on my McCarthy’s for a long time now, glad to see you're back at it. Maybe you'll get us all going again and we can make a bit more progress.

All for now, Linda

From cousin Pat Flanders Hall
I've kept your year-old message on my email for over a year now. I think it is time to respond. :-)

I presume that your part-time work has been delightful! Have you done much research? Do keep me in mind if you ever narrow the area in Cork where the McCarthy's came from. Like Linda, I've continued to strike out as well. My research has slowed considerably; I explained to my husband that I have the feeling that I have found almost everything I could possibly find. I have begun a draft of the French Canadien history and am looking for inspiration to start the Irish segment. That is fun but becomes a full-time job sometimes. I have made contact with a member of the Gayou family in France (my maiden name) and had high hopes he could start to narrow things down there for me. But it is more likely that my records will be use to him. Interesting doing email in another language; thank goodness for Yahoo translating sites.

My best, Pat

French land records for Portneuf County, Quebec

From cousin Yves Marcotte of St Basile, Portneuf County, Quebec

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Yves,

Thank you so much. I do have your census book of 1825 through 1901, so I'll look that section up.

Thanks again, Cuz Don

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From: Yves Marcotte
Don,

I don't know if you have the book ”Les recensements civils (1825-1901) de Saint-Basile-de-Portneuf". If you do, then you can find in in the last section of the book Le cadastre original de Saint-Basile (1878). It describes each of the 546 lots of land of the parish, giving the numer assignated to the "lot" (piece of land), the name of the owner at the time they made that land registry, the neighbouring on the four cardinal points, the width, the length and the surface of the lot. There is also copy of the plan of the parish showing each of those lots. So you can identify the lots that could have an interest for you.

I have worked on the transmission of the property of some of those lots. Should you be able to identify those interesting you, I'll check what I have on them.

There is a web site provided by the Quebec government where you could have this information about the successive owners of a lot. You have to pay for that. You will find that site at: http://www.registrefoncier.gouv.qc.ca/Sirf/

You will need basic information such as, the county (Portneuf), the parish (ex.: Saint-Basile), the number of the lot (ex.; lot 208, owned by William Shanahan).

The general information will list all the transactions related to that lot. ($ 1.00, whatever the number of pages of the document). Each of those transactions being numbered, then you could ask to view one specific transaction. Then you will see the original act as registered in the county office. ($ 1.00 each whatever the number of pages of the act). You could do that for each parish of the Portneuf county. The county office is no more the place to go to find or read an act. Since everything has been numbered, this web site has replaced the office.

Let me know if I could help.

Bye. Yves

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From: Donald Rowe

Subject: French land records

Yves,

I was wondering if you could help out with my continuing search for family data. I have three of your census books, but was wondering if you had perhaps done one dealing with land records in Portneuf county, or could direct me to an Internet site or records archives.

Thanks so much, Cuz Don

SS Lucania – photo from Wikipedia

This is the ship my mother came to America on in 1906 with her parents. Research thanks to second cousin once removed Linda Vilcheck.

Recent Shanaghan family discoveries – based on research of inhabitants in and around Abbeyfeale, County Limerick Ireland using Griffith’s Valuation data of 1852. No conclusion can be drawn, but the data is perhaps a clue to where my Shanaghans originated.

Townland of Ballagh, lots 2a and 5 – Edmond Shanahan

Townland of Cleanglass North, Larkins – Timothy and Michael Shanahan

Townland of Dromtasna North, lots 3c, William Shanahan (rented from John Hartnett)

Townland of Ballymurragh East, lot 4a, rented from Timothy Shanahan

Townland of Glendarragh, 11a, 11Ba, 11Ca, and 19, rented from Timothy Shanahan

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Recent McDonald family discoveries – using www.familysearch.org .

1910 US Census for Southborough, Worcester, MA – family 280, page 11. William Hayes Pratt and Wife Matilda G. Pratt, both born 1849 in Maine. William and Matilda are the Grandparents of Vivian M. Woodward, born 1902, and Lillian M. Woodward, born 1903. Vivian and Lillian later became step children of John Angus McDonald (Nancy’s maternal grandfather) and his first wife Cassie W. McDonald. Other notes indicate Cassie had three brothers. Cassie’s middle initial W suggests her married name was Woodward. Her death certificate from the Town of Hingham, MA and the obituary in the Hingham Journal of 22 August 1919 verify that the Pratt’s were her parents, her mother’s maiden name was Robinson, and that she had three brothers. The obituary notes her two daughters, who thus are verified as John Angus McDonald’s step daughters.

Any children of Vivian Woodward and Lillian Woodward and their spouses would be (step) first cousins to Nancy.

John Angus McDonald had a sister, and I found additional information on her (May McDonald Taylor (see below).

1920 US Census for Lisbon, NH – enumeration district 54, sheet 12 -last names of Taylor’s was spelled as Tayler. May A Tayler was shown as age 37 (born 1883) in Nova Scotia. Archie Tayler was shown as age 58 (born 1862). The children of Archie and May were given as: Donald W. Tayler, age 13; Priscilla Tayler, age 7; and Gladys Tayler as age 1 year and 3 months. May McDonald Tayler’s mother, Margret (probably Margaret) McDonald was given as age 75, and as born in Nova Scotia.

1940 US Census for Franconia, Franconia Town, Grafton, NH – lists May A. Taylor, age 57, born Canada, as wife of Archie E. Taylor, age 58, born NH. Gladys Taylor, their daughter, is given as age 21.

The children of Donald, Gladys and Priscilla Taylor are first cousins to Nancy.

Cassie was born 18 September 1881 in Rockport, ME and died 21 August 1919 in Hingham, MA. Her funeral was held in the First Baptist Church in Hingham.

I was unable to find further information on either Cassie W. or her siblings using www.familysearch.org . Future research might reveal additional information can be found in potential obituary in her parent’s town of Southville, MA.

Cassie W. (Pratt) Woodward and John Angus McDonald

Cassie W. (Pratt) Woodward was John Angus McDonald’s first wife. Cassie W. Pratt died in Hingham, MA 21 Aug 1919 at 38 years, 11 months and three days – of mercury poisoning (accidental) per the death certificate. Her death certificate from the Town of Hingham, MA and the obituary in the Hingham Journal of 22 August 1919 verify that the Pratt’s (William Hayes Pratt and Matilda G. Pratt) were her parents, her mother’s maiden name was Robinson, and that she had three brothers. Her death records were not found using either Ancestry.com or Familysearch.org. The census data below was similarly derived from www.ancestry.com and www.familysearch.org searches.

1870 US Census of St. George, Knox County, ME –George Pratt, age 53 and Margaret Y. Pratt, age 45. Children of George and Margaret Pratt:

William H. Pratt, age 21

James H. Pratt, age 19

Abbie Pratt, age 16

Ada A. Pratt, age 13

Frankie H. Pratt, age 7

George and Margaret Pratt are the paternal grandparents of Cassie W. (Pratt) Woodward, the first wife of John Angus McDonald.

1880 US Census of St. George, Knox County, ME – William H. Pratt, age 31 with wife Matilda age 31. Children listed:

William H. Pratt, age 7 (b 1873)

Lelon H. Pratt, age 4 (b 1876)

George H. Pratt, age 6 (b 1874)

Willard D. Pratt, age 3 (b 1877)

Jane Davis, age 68 (B 1812) – mother-in-law born ME

William, Lelon, George and Willard above are Cassie’s siblings

1900 US Census – in Chelsea Ward 4, Suffolk, MA – William H. Pratt, age 51 and Matilda G. Pratt. The document shows they were married in 1872. Children shown as:

Willard D. Pratt, age 23

Cassie W. Pratt, age 20 (single and born in Maine May 1880)

Searches using Ancestry.com and Familysearch.org found no record of the marriage of Cassie W. Pratt to Woodward. Tradition would suggest they were married in MA in her town of residence.

1910 US Census – in Southborough, Worcester, MA – William H. Pratt age 61 and

Matilda Pratt, age 61, together with granddaughters:

Lillian M. Woodward, age 8 (B 1902 in MA)

Vivian M. Woodward, age 7 (B 1903 in MA)

This record suggests Cassie was divorced in/before 1910. Vivian and Lillian were step-daughters of Nancy’s maternal grandfather, John Angus McDonald, and would be Nancy’s step Aunts. The children of Vivian and Lillian and spouses are Nancy’s step first cousins.

A photograph dated 8 September 1910 has the following note – “Cassie and her pal Jack” suggesting they were not married at that time. His military service re cords show he was single in 1908 and married by February of 1912.

Cassie had two daughters: Vivian M. Woodward and Lillian M. Woodward, born respectively 1902 and 1903 (per 1910 US Census for family 280, page 11) living in Southborough, Worcester County, MA. They lived then with their grandparents, William Hayes Pratt and Matilda G. at the time of the 1910 US Census. Both grandparents were born 1849 in Maine.

1920 US Census – in Southborough, Worcester, MA – William H. Pratt age 71 and

Matilda Pratt, age 70 (both born ME)

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Future research into the MacKenzie, McDonald, MacInnis, MacLeod, and Gillis family lines are open to your participation. My intent is to focus on my paternal Wroe, McCarthy, and Shanaghan family lines.

Thursday, August 16, 2012

HICUZ 90

This newsletter summarizes the recently unearthed data, and old data rediscovered in trying to answer questions from several cousins. I wish to acknowledge the inputs of several of my cousins – first cousins Eleanore (Rowe) Tomusko, Dennis Joseph O’Connor, (second or third) cousin Keith Corcoran, and second cousin once removed Linda (Sullivan) Vilcheck.

Eleanore (Rowe) Tomusko – I found an earlier letter in which my first cousin Eleanore (Rowe) Tomusko, researched Boston, MA records (8 parishes) but couldn’t find anything confirming Grampa William Joseph was baptized there. She did find in a 1853 Boston City Directory a Thomas (and thus Mary and Wm Joseph) Rowe, laborer, living at 28 Nashua Street.

Eleanore and her husband Bill found and verified the records showing arrival of Thomas Rowe (nee Wroe) and Mary Ellen (Meagher) Rowe to Boston, MA on 6 June 1853.

Cousin Eleanore Tomusko sent a letter years ago with data from the marriage of Wm Joseph and Catherine Ellen (Shanaghan) Rowe. The date was 19 June 1977. Their parents were identified as: Thomas and Mary Rowe, John and Elizabeth (I know separately- Larkin) Shannon (was Shanaghan in Canada. The witnesses were: Daniel Mannix and Helen Shannon. Helen was Catherine’s sister and Daniel Mannix was a family friend (separately noted by Eleanore. My Dad was named after this Daniel Mannix, whose son became a doctor. Cousin Eleanore said the two doctors didn’t appreciate each other for some reason. The marriage was performed by Rev. Dennis Bradley.

Eleanore also shared in a Oct 1997 letter details of the siblings of my grandmother, Catherine Ellen (Shanaghan). Her sister Linia “Lena” married George Keeble. Lena and George Keeble had two children, Elizabeth and a son. The son ran away from home and was never heard of again; Elizabeth “Lizzie” Keeble never married and eventually lived with her sister, my grandmother in Portland, ME.

Dennis Joseph O’Connor - Has joined the Gaelic-

Keith Corcoran - sent along a family photo, circa XXXX, showing several of his particular ancestors (names, relationships), with one individual identified as Joseph Rowe. At the time my Uncle/Aunt Joseph and Teresa (Tamborrel) Rowe were living in Mexico. Thus this particular Joseph Rowe was not in our line.

Scott Rowe - has been researching numerous records (census, death certificates, burial) for my great grandparents, Thomas and Mary Ellen (Meagher) Rowe, and Catherine (Meagher) Murray, Catherine’s sister. The 1900 census report noted that Mrs. Murray had one child, which was not alive, and she came to the USA in the same year as Great Gramma Mary. I doubt that a census taker would make that type of entry up. I suspect Catherine came over that same year, but at another time. Scott unearthed (pardon the play on words) Calvary cemetery records. Scott and I shared various records which summarize the conflicting info on Mary Ellen and her sister Catherine.

Scott downloaded the 1900 census of Portland, ME which has Catherine Murray living with her sister Mary Rowe. The Calvary cemetery online records for grave site #3 lot 69 has Mary Rowe at 69 yrs (d. 1902), and in the next grave, #6 Lot 69, has Catherine Murray at 68 Yrs (d. 1909) with a note that “the stone states 1839 DOB.”

Catherine’s Death certificate states she died 1/19/1909 while living with her sister’s family at Adams St. Portland Maine. Her death certificate lists Jeremiah Maher and Johanna Casey as her parents, and her age at death 68yrs. I suspect that the census taker screwed up the age of Catherine. Mary should be the eldest by about 5-6 yrs. If they came together in 1853 I doubt Catherine would have been married as she would have been 14-15 years old.

Various records I had (Death certificates, 1880 US census, 1900 census, and Calvary Cemetery records) show varying years of birth for Mary Ellen vs. Catherine, as follows:

Mary Ellen – 1835, 1832, Apr 1832, and 1834

Catherine - 1841, not recorded, May 1821 and 1841 I’m uncertain any are precise.

As to Catherine and Mary’s parents – the records all identify their father as Jeremiah Meagher, and their mother as either Catherine (or Johanna) Casey. Perhaps one or the other was a middle name.

Scott’s research discovered that Catherine and Michael Murray divorced, probably after the death of their son Michael at 5 months, and he remarried. We believe Michael married Ellen, who is buried with him in the same cemetery in South Portland, ME.

Ellen died 3 March 1888 at age 52, Michael Murray d 27 Dec 1908 at 88 years. Michael Murray the son of Catherine and Michael Murray died 21 September 1866 at age 5 months.

Scott successfully downloaded copies of the Passenger Arrival records for the ship Josephus to Boston in 1853, as well as death certificates for Mary Ellen (Meagher) Rowe and her sister Catherine (Meagher) Murray. Michael Murray (the father’s) grave states he was husband of both Catherine and Ellen.

Linda (Sullivan) Vilcheck – introduced herself, found us all via the HICUZ blog.

An unnamed cousin shared information – good as of 1999, for how to obtain copies of Ordnance Survey (OS) maps from the Library of Congress (LOC). These maps provide valuable information relating which families lived in particular parts of the British Isles in the period 18940 and thereafter. They are extremely valuable with Irish research in that the census records for the Republic of Ireland prior to 1920 were almost all burned in the 1916 uprising. These maps even depict individual structures. The original maps date to 1840, and several were updated in 1890s and 1920s.

To use the OS maps effectively, you must be certain of the county and the map number (means you know the town or town land, barony, and parish.) where you hope to find ancestral homes. The LOC has microfiche copies of many old OS maps. None of the maps have the alphanumeric identifiers which the surveyors of the Griffith’s Valuation added in pen and ink. The only source of the annotated maps for the Republic of Ireland is the Valuation Office in Dublin. To get the copies from the LOC –

1) US residents can order copies of the full size maps by sending the map number and county name to: Library Of Congress, Photo Duplication Services, Washington, DC 20540-5230.

2) Visit the LOC Mapping Department in the basement oif the Madison Bldg, First and Independence Ave., SE, Washington, DC. Bring a photo ID and buy a LOC copy card.

The microfiche are arranged in cabinets by county, then by map number. There is a fiche at the start of each county which shows the arrangement of that county’s OS maps. There are separate drawers for the 1840, 1890s, and 1920s variants.

MLFHS: Catholic Records

The three RC dioceses in Lancashire have agreed that the place of safety of
registers and other records of Catholic parishes should be the Lancashire
Archives in Preston. You can view its holdings of all religious registers
on-line at
http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/web/?siteid=4528&pageid=30843&e=e
This list is kept up-to-date as registers are deposited.

The Manchester Archives and Local Studies Unit (MALS) has microfilm copies
of some of these RC registers. Its index is on-line at
http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=448&documentID=464

> Can you please tell me where the records for St Malachey's RC church in
> Erasmus Street, Collyhurst, are kept

The parish of St Malachy is a fairly new parish (founded 1922) but has
suffered a marked loss of population in the last 30- - 40 years and is now
part of the parish of St Patrick, Livesey St. The LA catalogue has -

MANCHESTER, Collyhurst, St Malachy; Diocese of Salford
For original registers enquire at:- Hollywood House, Sudell Street,
Collyhurst, Manchester. M4 4JF
C 1947-1962; M 1947-1954, 1961-1962 Reg rets RCSF 2
[endquote]

This means that all the original parish registers are still with the Parish
Priest, to whom enquiries should be directed at the address quoted. The
'Reg rets' are similar to the Anglican Bishop's Transcripts but there is a
closure period of about seventy years i.e. they cannot be consulted until
seventy years have elapsed from the last entry.

> Also can you tell me where to find records for St Chads on Cheetham Hill
> Road

The current "Salford Diocesan Almanac" (2012) has this note about St Chad
under "Closed Churches and Chapels of the Salford Diocese" -

Manchester, St Chad - This mission was founded in the mid-eighteenth century in a former industrial building off The parsonage. It was re-located to a property at
Roman Entry in 1773 and then top a purpose built chapel on Rook Street in
1776. It was finally moved to its current location on Cheetham Hill in
1847. Early registers at LCRO [= LA], later registers at St Anne, Crumpsall [endquote]

From a potential cousin –

My 3rd great aunt Catherine Slattery was married to Michael McCarthy in Ste Catherine De Portneuf, Quebec, Canada in 1833. Catherine was born in Tralee in 1815 according to the 1851 Canadian Census. Her parents were Patrick Slattery and Catherine Pollard.

I believe that Patrick Slattery's brother was Stephen Slattery. You have both of their names posted in the Graves’ settlement, Seignory of Neuville, Concessions of St John, St Mary.

I did find a birth record for Michael Slattery who was Stephen Slattery and Hanorah Fitzmaurice's son and I did also find Stephen and Hanorah's marriage record in DUNMUNTANE, Kerry.

I have never been able to find any documents for Patrick and his wife Catherine Pollard as to where they came from in Ireland. I do believe that they also came from County Kerry.

What is the Graves Settlement? This is the first I have ever heard of it. Thank you for establishing this Blog Spot.

Liz

My reply to Cuz Liz,

I apologize for being so tardy in responding. I only check my G-Mail account occasionally since I set it up for coordinating a trilogy of novels I’m working on I saw that you had checked Ancestry.com about the Graves Settlement.

Here is an extract which addresses the Graves Settlement in Portneuf County, Quebec – it may be the citation you refer to.

Back in HI CUZ 27 I provided some incorrect Shanaghan family information. By way of introduction, it will be helpful to show which “Irlandais” emigrated to Portneuf County in Quebec together, and when they came, as of that 1842 census. That census information shows that I was wrong in saying the older William Shanaghan was the son of Denis and Catherine McCarthy Shanaghan; here’s how it looked across several closely spaced districts. Listed by number of years present in Canada, as of 1842:

Graves’ settlement, Seignory of Neuville, Concessions of St John, St Mary

21 years – Robert Cameron, from Scotland, family of 9, 1 from Ireland, rest born Canada.

Roderick Mullins, gardener from Ireland

16 years – Denis Shanaghan, 10 in fam, 6 Irish, 5 born Canada, 1 not enum w/ family

Stephen Slattery, 8 in fam, 3 born Ireland, 5 born Canada

15 years – John Lawless, 6 in fam, all born Ireland

John McCarthy, 6 in fam, 3 born Ireland, 3 born Canada

Michael McCarthy, 5 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 3 born Canada

Michael Gaffney, 8 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 1 born Canada, 1 not enum w/ family

12 years – Patrick Burns, 6 in fam, all born Ireland

John Rotchford, Ireland, mason

Mary Graves, Ireland

10 years – Owen Love, 2 in fam, both from Ireland

Roger McGahan, 2 in fam, both from Ireland

Patrick Slattery, 4 in fam, all from Ireland

Charles Cleary, 6 in fam, 3 from Ireland, 3 born Canada

Martin Lawlor, 5 in fam, all born Ireland

John Cleary, 5 in fam, 3 born Ireland, 2 born Canada

David Graham, 3 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 1 born Canada

9 years – William Shanaghan, 5 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 3 born Canada.

Bourg Louis, First Range

13 years – Cornelius Shanaghan, 9 in family, 3 Irish, 6 born Canada.

Graves’ Settlement, Seignory of Neuville, Concession of St Charles

20 years – William Raisin, 3 in fam, 2 Irish, 1 born Canada

17 years – Denis Duggin, culler of timber, fam of 5, 5 from Ireland

Thomas Corcoran, 8 in fam, 3 Irish, 5 born Canada

16 years - Arthur McClintock, 8 in fam, 2 from Ireland, 6 born Canada

15 years – Richard Driscoll, 7 in family, 3 from Ireland, 4 born Canada

James Corcoran, 3 in fam, 2 born Ireland, 2 born Canada, I not enum w/ fam

Patrick Love, 10 in fam, 4 born Ireland, 6 born Canada

Also here is another Slattery, probably a relative.

Received in the mail from Ste Catherine paroisse (parish) de Portneuf, 2 Rue Jolicoeur, Quebec, Canada G0A 3M0, a copy of the parish record of the 6 February 1844 (M4) marriage of my great grandparents, John Shanaghan, "son of age to Denis Shanaghan and Catherine McCarthy of St Bazil, of one part, and Eleanor Mylar, daughter of age to Thomas Mylar and Elizabeth Larkin also of St Bazil." Noted as present were "Denis Shanaghan, father, and Thomas Slattery, a friend of the bridegroom, of James Mylar brother and Catherine Shanaghan sister in law of the bride." Signing the record were Dennis Shanahan, James Mylar, Thomas Slattery. I'm curious about this Catherine, sister in law of the bride, which makes her the bride of a brother of Eleanor (Ellen), perhaps James Mylar's wife???, and maybe John's sister????. The record was entirely in English, a rarity among ones I've seen in French speaking Canada in that period, perhaps suggesting the priest (named Paisley) at this parish was a rare one. The record also said that "bride and bridegroom cannot write." Little tips help!

I’m not up to speed on land areas, or controls of the settlements. Here is another clue. Settlements were grants of the Crown, sort of like early American colonies. Good luck.

See – http://provincequebec.com/municipalites-of-quebec/portneuf/ for entries below on towns of interest.

Portneuf

Portneuf is a town located near Quebec City. It has a population of about 3,000.

The first settler in the Portneuf area was Pierre Robineau who came here in 1636. Ten years later the seigneury of Portneuf was created. In 1681, it became a barony. Flour mill, a sawmill, a Catholic church and a manor house were built.

During the French regime, the seigniors gave precedence to settlement and agriculture in the area. The English placed more emphasis on commercial exploitation of the forest and of hydraulic power.

In 1801, when Canada was an English colony, Mr. McNider takes a fifty-year lease on the property which later was taken over by Edward Hale, a member of the Council of Lower Canada. Mr. Hale brought in many Irish Protestants to Portneuf. In 1806, industry begins in the town, when W.B. Coltman builds a water-powered sawmill. Lumber mills, shipbuilding and, much later, paper mills were developed here.

(Trois Rivieres (Three Rivers), noted below, is in the vicinity of various parishes where our ancestors lived.)

Trois-Rivieres

Trois-Rivieres City (population of about 130,000) is located in the Mauricie administrative Region at the confluence of the St-Maurice and the St Lawrence, halfway between Montreal and Quebec City. In fact, the name of the city meaning “Three Rivers” reminds us that the St-Maurice River, which is divided by two islands at the river’s opening, has three mouths at the place of its confluence with the St. Lawrence River.

The city was founded in July, 1634, by Sieur Laviolette, and it was the second permanent settlement in Canada, founded 26 years after the founding of the future Quebec City. TheForges du Saint-Maurice, the very first Canadian foundry dating back to the 1730s, was founded here.

Due to its important strategic position, Trois-Rivieres was scene of battles during the Seven-Years-War and during the American invasion in 1775.

In 1608, the greater part of Trois-Rivieres was destroyed by a fire. Unfortunately, almost all original buildings were destroyed. Only a few were spared by the fire, including the Ursuline Monastery and the De Tonnancour Manor.

Actually, Trois-Rivieres City is a large agglomeration created in 2002, when six smaller historical towns merged, namely Cap-de-la-Madeleine, Pointe-du-Lac, Sainte-Marthe-du-Cap, Saint-Louis-de-France, Trois-Rivieres and Trois-Rivieres-Ouest.

Shannon

Shannon is situated approximately 15 miles north, twenty minutes by car, of Quebec City, along the banks of the Jacques-Cartier River.

The first inhabitants that settled here were of Irish descent who came here in the pre-famine era, seeking a better life. These people became farmers and lumbermen, driving logs along the Jacques-Cartier River. Till now, many inhabitants have Irish roots, and Shannon is one of the strongest Irish communities in Quebec.

The municipality of Shannon was created in 1846, when citizens of the community decided to leave St. Catherine-de-Portneuf in protest against the municipal taxes.

(St Catherine was a parish near St Basile (where my Shanaghan/McCarthy ancestors passed through); both in Portneuf County they had many Irish residents.)

I’m of the opinion that due to these connections years ago we’re cousins, so - WELCOME CUZ!

MLFHS: New Data in the Catholic Records Index

By kind permission of Lawrence Gregory at Salford Diocesan RC Archives I have added several thousand new names to the Catholic Records Index on the society web site (accessed via the button on the home page or direct at http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/catholic_search.php

The data covers:

Manchester, St. Ann, Stretford
Baptisms, Marriages & Confirmations 1859-1925

Manchester, St. Alphonsus, Brooks Bar, Old Trafford
Baptisms, Marriages & Confirmations 1904-1925

Manchester, St. Anthony of Padua, Trafford Park
Confirmations 1904-1926

Barton on Irwell RC Cemetery, Burial Registers 1823-1948

MLFHS member
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MLFHS: Catholic Records Index - New Data

Many thanks for these additions.

Particularly as I’m certain that I have finally found some vital
information about my 3 x great grandmother which has been eluding me for
about 12 years.

Please can you tell me if the printed copy of transcribed burial
registers for the period 1816-1825 is available for purchase or can it
only be accessed in the Society's Resource Centre? And are there any
plans to transcribe the remaining years ie bet 1825 and 1832?

A massive thanks is also deservedly due to Julie. She has clearly done
a great job with a very difficult transcription.

Another MLFHS member comment

I have just added a small batch of burials to the Catholic Records Index. These relate to burials at St. Mary, Mulberry Street, Manchester for the period 1832-37.

Great thanks are due to Julie Davey for a magnificent effort in transcribing these near impossible images - the scanned pages are frayed and discoloured and the ink sometimes pale, and that is even before the sometimes appalling writing and widespread use of highly abbreviated forenames.

These will eventually appear together with baptisms and the earlier burials on a CD to be published by the Catholic FHS. The direct link to the index is http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/catholic_search.php

MLFHS: Parish records available online at LDS site

There's no straightforward (either reasonable or unreasonable) way I know of getting a list of the parishes with images.

What I do is:

Go to familysearch.org

Scroll down the page and below 'Browse by Location' click on 'British Isles'; you'll get a list of all collections and some of these collections have link
to 'Browse Images'

The Lancashire Parish Records entry does not have a 'Browse Images Link' but if you click on the link for the collection and scroll down the page you then get a link to 'Browse through Images'

MLFHS: Parish records available online at LDS site

The basic index page for the Cheshire, Lancashire and Yorkshire images is:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12454-46877-84?cc=1788853&wc=10932209#uri=https%3A%2F%2Fapi.familysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fcollection%2F1788853%2Fwaypoints

Memorable huh!

MLFHS: Parish records available online at LDS site

I just click on BMD on the tool bar, go to Lancashire online images and there is the list!

I just want to thank you for interest in family research and for sharing so many bits of the puzzle. Keep up the good work. I apologize if I have overlooked anyone.

Wroe/Rowe ancestry

Wendy Wroe Marta Innocenti Doreen Travis

T David Wroe Lin Rowe Betty DiBiase

Steve Rowe Eleanore Rowe Tomusko Judith Wroe

Janis Pahnke John L. Rowe Erik Bengtsson

Scott Rowe Margie (French) Thompson

O’Connor/Sullivan ancestry

Dennis John O’Connor

Dale and Mamie (Brew) Mildon

Mary Frances (O'Connor) LaMar (deceased)

Catherine “Cat” Shrum (deceased)

Tom Buckley Clare (O’Connor) Coulter

William D. Brew (deceased) Marge Dillon (deceased)

Sile O’Mahoney of Tipperary Vincent O’Connor

Patricia (Tish) O’Connor (deceased)

Jill (O’Connor) Kelly Tim and Kerstin O’Connor

Nora Curtin (deceased)

Shanaghan/McCarthy ancestry

John and Sandra Byrne Janice Copeman Keith Corcoran"

Olav and Kathy den Ouden Patricia Hall

Linda Maitland Yves and Gisele Marcotte

Michael L. Marcotte Percy Lawless Theresa Ganest (deceased)

Kevin Kindellan Lucy Bryne (deceased)

Patrick Michael McCarthy

Gerhard ancestry
Jim Dixon Joan (Gerhard) Stelicha

McDonald ancestry

Heather MacKenzie David MacLeod

Dick MacLeod Jill (MacKenzie) Olson

Rev. Jonathan MacKenzie

Heather (MacKenzie) Davern

Diaz/Robinson/Pena ancestry

Roberta “Bobbie” Robinson Carmichael

MLFHS: Catholic Records Index

An MLFHS member has added another 6,281 names to the Catholic Records Index on the society web site. These relate to:

St Mary, Swinton & The Swinton Industrial Schools
Baptisms 1856-1910
Marriages 1867-1920
Confirmations 1863-1904
WW1 War Dead

These come courtesy of Lawrence Gregory of Salford Diocesan Archives.

TREASURE – From second cousin once removed Linda (Sullivan) Vilcheck. She found the record of my Mothers’ passage to America as a baby.

I don't really know where to start with family things, so here goes... it appears that you had trouble finding the ship your mother came over on. It was the SS Lucania. It sailed from Liverpool and Queenstown, and arrived in New York on the 28 July 1906 - and here's something interesting. They sailed 2nd class, not steerage.

They were listed as follows:

361 Sullivan, Sylvester. 19 y; male; single; laborer; can read/write; Nationality - British; Race - Irish; last residence - Caherdaniel; final destination Ansonia, Ct; ticket? - no; paid by sister; has $50; in U.S. before? - no; ever been in prison?-no; polygamist? - no; anarchist? - no; promise of labor? - no; health - good; crippled/deformed? – no

360 Sullivan, Ellen. 60 y; female; married; housekeeper; contract 27482; can read/write; Nationality - British; Race - Irish; last residence - Caherdaniel; final destination Ansonia, Ct.; ticket? - no; paid by daughter; has $50; In US before? - no; joining daughter, Mrs. Denis O'Connor, 28 Rockwood Ave., Ansonia, Ct.; In prison? - no; Polygamist? no-; Anarchist? - no; Promise of labor? -no; Health memo - senility; crippled/deformed? - no. (Held for Special Inquiry. see page 34, #9. See pass. 379, her daughter) (Don’s maternal great grandmother)

Sullivan, Ellen & son. 60 y. female; grp 2, #7/8, 2 persons (passenger 360/361); cause of detention - LPC; Inspector - Fitzgerald; adm 7/28, pg 161; Secy - M, Time: 9:25, 2 dinners

(LPC recorded after cause of detention is the abbreviation for "likely to become public charge)

379 O'Connor, Bridget. 28 y; female; married; housekeeper; contract 27482; can read/write; Nationality - American; Race - Irish; last residence - Caherdaniel; final destination - Ansonia, Ct.; ticket? - no: paid by husband: $ - no; In US before? - yes, 1904 Ansonia; joining husband, Denis O'Connor, 28 Rockwood Ave., Ansonia, Ct.; In prison? - no; polygamist? - no; anarchist? - no; promise of labor? - no; health - good; crippled/deformed?-no; (see passengers 360, 361, 380 - 382) (Don’s maternal grandmother)

380 O'Connor, Ellen. 11 y.; female; single; can't read or write; Nationality - American; Race - Irish; last residence - Caherdaniel; Final destination - Ansonia, Ct.; Ticket? - no; paid by father; In US before? - yes, 1904, Ansonia; joining father ( see passenger 379)

381 O'Connor, Daniel. 2 y; male; single; child; can't read/write; Nationality - American; Race - Irish; last residence - Caherdaniel; final destination - Ansonia; Ticket? no:; paid by father; $? - no; joining father (see passenger 379)

382 O'Connor, Bridget. 1 y.; female; single; can't read/write; Nationality - American; Race - Irish; last residence - Caherdaniel; Final destination - Ansonia; Ticket? - no; paid by father; $ - no; In US before? - no; joining father (see passenger380) (Don’s mother)

Just as a hmmmm - passenger 869 was a Sinclair Lewis. He was in steerage.

Thanks Cuz Linda!!!