HI CUZ 81 Part one - Internet Genealogical resources

HICUZ 81 - Genealogical resources on the Internet

from the postings at the Central Rappahannock Regional Library (CRRL) and from members of the Manchester Liverpool Family History Society (MLFHS).

CRRL posting - An extensive and growing collection of valuable genealogical resources has appeared on the Internet Archive website.

  A partial list may be found at
  [1]http://www.archive.org/details/allen_county

  Included in the series held on the website so far are:

    - US decennial census for 1800 - 1930,

    - Soundex index for the census for 1880 and 1900 (1910 is partially completed),

    - Alphabetical index for service records of US soldiers in the War of 1812,

    - Service records of both Confederate and Union soldiers in the Civil War,

    - Service records of US soldiers in the American Revolution,

    - US passport applications: 1795-1905,

These are raw digitized versions of microfilm reels held by the US National Archives. Each reel has its own webpage which includes an online reader and links which enable downloading the entire digitized reel in various formats.  Each webpage also includes a brief description of the contents of the reel and usually includes information about its place in the larger microfilm series of which it's a member.

This is an extraordinary library resource which lacks human archivists to help us find things.  In an effort to partially fill this lack, we have two new resources:

    - A new mailing list has been created to enable sharing of information and
  expertise regarding how to find records, how the records are organized, etc.

        The   list   is   hosted   by  RootsWeb  and  may  be  found  at

[2]http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/DIGITAL-ARCH
  IVES.html

    - A web page has been created to provide finding guides.

        The   page   is   hosted   by  DonsList  and  may  be  found  at
  [3]http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/GuidesM.htm .

  If you are someone who has sent for a record at the National Archives, or someone who might wish to do so, or someone who is interested in accessing these records, or an archivist or librarian, etc., please consider subscribing to the mailing list and visiting the website.  Hopefully the discussion on  the  mailing  list will provide direction and improved understanding for all of us.  From time to time, those who subscribe may wish to assemble what has been learned about specific series into "help" text which can be posted to the website along with improvements to the finding guides there.  The material on the website will be restricted to simple .html files which can be copied and used on any website whose owners wish to host them, e.g. libraries with genealogical holdings.

Please consider cross posting this to other lists where appropriate. Thank you.
References:

  1. http://www.archive.org/details/allen_county
  2.
http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/Internet_Help/DIGITAL-ARCHIVE
S.html
  3. http://www.donslist.net/PGHLookups/GuidesM.htm
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MLFHS posting - A major new addition at www.lancashirebmd.org.uk takes the total number of records indexed to over 14 million. The new data, which may provide insight into prior Wroe generations near Manchester, is as follows:

503 Births for Oldham RD comprising: Oldham Third (1954-1955)

63,009 Births for Liverpool RD comprising: Walton Park (1934-1957)

13,427 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Preesall (1937-1969); St. Michael (1837-1937); Warton (1901-1919); Wray (1918-1937)

28,822 Deaths for Hyndburn RD comprising: Newchurch (1837-1895)

9,553 Deaths for Burnley RD comprising: Nelson (1936-1954)

953 Marriages for North Sefton RD comprising: St Marie's on the Sands (2009-2010); Methodist Church Leyland Road (2009-2010); St Philip & St Paul with Wesley SB Scarisbrick New Road (2009-2009); Grace Baptist Church Princes Street (2009-2009); Baptist Church Scarisbrick New Road (2009-2009); St. Teresa RC Church Everton Road (2009-2010); Methodist Church, Liverpool Road (2009-2010); Holy Family RC Church, Brompton Road (2009-2010); Elim Pentecostal Church Manchester Road (2001-2009); Shoreline Church 9 Mornington Road (2009-2010); Methodist and United Reformed Church Lord Street West (2009-2010); Our Lady of Lourdes, Waterloo Road (2010-2010); Christadelphian Hall GF, 51 Part Street (2009-2009); Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints (2009-2010); Kingdom Hall, 30 Duke Street (2009-2010); St. John Stone's RC Church, Sandbrook Way (2009-2010); St Jerome's RC Church, Wicks Lane, Formby (2009-2010); Our Lady of Compassion Formby (2009-2010); St Patrick's RC Church, Marshside Road (2009-2010); Family Life Centre Ash Street (2009-2009); Catholic Chapel Ince Blundell (2009-2009); Church of the Sacred Heart, Liverpool Road (2010-2010); The Church of St. Francis of Assisi (2010-2010); St Anne's RC Chapel (2010-2010); Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses, Formby (2009-2009); St Josephs Saxon Road (2009-2010); St George's Church Lord Street (2009-2009); Methodist Church Marshside Road (2009-2010); Ainsdale St. John (2009-2010); Southport All Saints (2010-2010); Southport Christ Church (2009-2010); Southport Emmanuel (2009-2010); Southport Holy Trinity (2009-2010); Southport St Philip & St Paul (2009-2009); Southport St Simon & St Jude with All Souls (2010-2010); Southport St Francis (2010-2010); Birkdale St. James (2009-2010); Birkdale St John (2009-2010); Birkdale St Peter (2009-2010); Crossens St John (2009-2010); Formby Holy Trinity (2009-2010); Formby St Luke (2009-2010); Formby St Peter (2009-2010); North Meols St Cuthbert (2009-2010); Register Office or Registrar Attended (2009-2010)

Accidentally omitted from my last update were the following additions at
ww.lancashirebmd.org.uk: 23,045 Births for

Lancaster RD

comprising: Lancaster (1926-1951)

 MLFHS: Jewish Burial Records

Try the following sites: http://www.jewishgen.org/  or  http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/

MLFHS – Old Parish Registers (OPR)

Before the days of computers, the Old Parish Registers (OPRs) for Scotland were available on fiche. Computers arrived and the Latter Day Saints (LDS) were given access to the OPRs and created an index of births and marriages, and produced a CD which was only available to LDS Family History Centres. This CD is still available in some centres, but does require experience to use it as it, and its accompanying programme, are in DOS format !!!

However it is a much easier tool than Scotland's People web site and in Olga's case may
well help as it would tell how many and where JOHN CHADWICK and ISABELLA PEARSON had their children, if in Scotland and within the established church, the Church of Scotland. Another advantage with Scottish records is that women maintained their maiden surnames when they had children, when they died and were buried, and including on their wills if they wrote one.

I will be at my local LDS FHC on Wednesday and will see what the CD brings forth with
specific regard to this couple, as the births of their children will rule them in or out for Olga's particular problem.

 We are spoilt in as much as the English were forced, in 1812, to add more information
onto their baptisms, burials and marriages when the new nation wide page format was
introduced to the Churches of England. This format did not go to Scotland and it wasn't
until official registration in 1855 that Scotland added more details, and then they added
much more than had ever been on the English records.

I forgot to add: What was recorded on the baptisms and marriages in Scotland entirely
depended on the minister of the day, and often "who they were" that were getting married. However, it is not uncommon for a marriage to be entered in two parish registers a few days apart indicating the bride's parish separate from that of the groom's, and sometimes included is the groom's occupation as a bonus.

It is no consolation but I have several Scottish marriages just like yours. It seems that the witnesses were not entered pre civil registration. Mine just say X and Y gave up their names and were married on the whatever date it was. However have noticed that some do refer to the father of the bride and groom (not mine however!) and wonder if this was for people marrying under full age and therefore would need parental consent.

The part about the wife's maiden name also applies to Ireland (at least the Church of Ireland) prior 1837.

MLFHS: Family Search Records Images

I tried to access some of the Lancs parish registers on Family Search last December and kept getting an error message.  I contacted them and I got  2 replies from them .  Firstly-

'Thank you for contacting FamilySearch with the image unavailable issue. We have replicated the problem and will send it forward to the unit that handles problems such as this. Please keep checking back on that collection, but it will probably be some weeks before the resolution is in place.

We appreciate you bringing this to our attention as patrons using the collections are our best source for finding problems that occur.' And secondly

'FamilySearch is in the process of replacing some of our older collections with newer indexes, some with attached images.  This requires that some records be removed in order to be reworked.  Please continue to watch the site for these records to reappear in newly titled collections at a later date.'

MLFHS: Family Search Records Images

The Family Search site had in its collection of Registers the images for a number of locations in Lancashire, under England, Lancashire - Cheshire - Yorkshire Parish Registers.

I have noticed that everthing after one Oldham Church St Andrew is no longer there, just as well I downloaded them early in the year. I cannot see a link to a second page for Oldham onward or mention of them, have they gone for good ?

MLFHS: Husbandman- +Tithes

As Geoffrey has said this is wonderful site for Cheshire. I found my ancestors cottage and land he had,---although by that time the family had gone from gentlemen to yeoman through husband man to Ag lab!

What ever they started out with in 1650 (including titled in laws) after the fifth son of the fifth son etc. it had gone by 1840. So down as well as upward mobility.

If you have any ancestors in Cheshire the Cheshire Tithe Maps (about 1840) online at http://archives.cheshire.gov.uk/ are a fascinating resource. The land and buildings have owners & occupiers listed. I suppose you could cross-reference them to the 1841 Census and see if those described as farmers, husbandmen etc. did own their houses & land.
Unfortunately the Cheshire Tithe Maps seem to be the only county available online

I have struggled with this nomenclature myself for some time, but without any absolutely clear result, whether for occupations at marriage or census. My rather hazy conclusions at the present time are as follows.

Top of the tree would be someone who owned or leased (usually for so many lives) a substantial amount of land: more than his immediate family needs. He would have farm buildings, probably a horse, might employ people and his land would perhaps be worth more than 50 shillings a year if rented. He would probably be called a 'yeoman'. This would bring rights such as local voting and obligations such as overseer of the poor within the parish and he might serve in the local yeomanry (horsed militia). Despite what I have just written I have found it very difficult to find a written definition of yeoman.

Of lessor status but similar occupation would be a 'farmer' who by ownership or lease would farm an area of land for his own benefit. If his holding were sufficiently valuable he might be referred to by the parish as a yeoman; if less valuable or he was merely a tenant he would be called a 'farmer'. The distinction between the two seems to be of property value and status.

Either of the above might employ people to help them farm the land. An unskilled farm hand would be a labourer of course, but rearing of livestock has considerable scope for skill and knowledge: such a person might call themselves a husbandman. Presumably people skilled in raising crops might also call themselves a husbandman. Thus husbandman signifies a skilled profession rather than value of property or status.

As far as an electoral roll is concerned I would say a yeoman would qualify, a farmer might, a husbandman probably wouldn't unless (unlikely) he owned his cottage. As I have said clear information on this is difficult to find, so this is my best guess. I hope it helps.

Having a devious mind your message just prompted me to try something.
As I said the other day the Lancs Church list stops at Newton St Wilfred, waypoint/6450647.

Alter the end of the URL and hey presto we have some missing Churches 6450661 brings up the registers of Prestwich St Mary. I have yet to experiment further but it seems they are there but hidden.

We have one of Tony's ancestors who was listed as being a "sowderer" at the baptism of one of his children. When I found the baptisms for his other children it turns out that he was a "brass solderer". It would seem that this chap was also a "write as it sounds" type as well!!

I wondered, as I suspect you did, if this word should have been "'Attorney's". Checking the OED I find that 'Turney' is indeed an aphetic form of 'Attorney'.

Now I have to admit that 'aphetic' was a new adjective to me (so thanks for pointing me there), and for those who may be, like my spell-checker, similarly in the dark I can now report that aphesis is (OED), "The gradual and unintentional loss of a short unaccented vowel at the beginning of a word; as in squire for esquire".

"Do not take lightly small good deeds, believing they can hardly help. For drops of water, one by one, in time can fill a giant pot.  Patrul Rinpoche 19th century Buddhist"

 MLFHS: Husbandman

With respect to your comment about husbandmen having the vote if they were
landowners.

It is my impression that most husbandmen/ farmers were tenants.  That said, if of sufficient means as many were, they could still have the vote. Crop husbandry is also a perfectly accepted term, even today.

 MLFHS: Husbandman

I was under the impression that a husbandman was a farmer of animals rather than crops therefore the term "animal husbandry". Quite a few of mine and Tony's ancestors that lived in rural areas were listed as "Husbandman". If so, is it possible I might find him in a Poll Book?

CRRL - Freedmen's Bureau records online

In case you were having trouble finding the new Freedmen's Bureau records which went online at FamilySearch in February, here's the path:

Go to https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list

Type the word " Virginia " in the search box

From the results, click on the link to " Virginia , Freedmen's Bureau Letters, 1865-1872"

CRRL links - Genealib] Shorthand Points of Reference: Countries/Areas Worldwide

Shorthand Points of Reference:
Countries/Areas Worldwide

In the continuing process of upgrades,
the following are noted as important:

(1)  OneSource Comprehensive Directory Index
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/onesource.htm
has instructions for use of country - nation area
index A to Z at: Ancestor Roots Information.
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/ancestorrootsinformationdatabases.htm
This reference has been updated completely.
http://goo.gl/Wn8Am

Evaluation format for sample country is duplicated
for every other world country.   Every national site
in the world, with information related to their civil
records, culture, genealogy, libraries, museums,
printed - country family history outlines, country
studies groups, individual identity information,
indigenous peoples, etc., is now online here.*
The horizontal use of internal links combinesall major area data sources together without
the necessity to vertically return back to the
top of the pages for connective research.
. . .FIFTH LINK goes to Map from World Atlas;
Etc., with famous natives, fast facts, flags,
land statistics, landforms, latitude - longitude,
links, maps, symbols, time, timeline, travel
information and weather; as presented.
EXAMPLE: [SAME FORMAT FOR ANY COUNTRY]EIGHTH LINK SUB SET goes to Culture
of [Italy Country Insight]; Italy taken from:
globalEDGE| Country Insights by globalEDGE
Business Knowledge; (or else, the [Country /
Geographical Location] is taken from a carefully
selected country / geographical location resource.)
This is the followed by the Topic Outline of Area
from Wikipedia(r), in combination with listing of
higher education studies sites, libraries, depositories,
or other related country culture links, as shown: . . .

(2) Reference and Homework Help
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/referencehomeworkhelp.htm
Provides under Reference Help
http://goo.gl/kYA49
* Credo Reference: Credo Reference
  Smart research starts here.  Easy access
  to trusted content from over 70 of the world's
  leading academic publishers.
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    through any subscribing library.

(3) Regional Genealogy and Local History Research
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/regionalgenealogy.htm
Presents direct access to country links at IndexY
(Yahoo!); or, where available, country GlobalTower
Resource Directory, giving full access to Britannica
Online Encyclopedia references.

(4) Schools - Colleges - Universities
http://www.academic-genealogy.com/schoolscollegesuniversities.htm
Immediately lists Universities, with links to websites
of Ministries of Education and other national agencies
or institutions responsible for education in each individual
country, where available via UNESCO.  Countries by
population can be individually compared with Zip (BYU),
http://lib.byu.edu/sites/familyhistory/education/
or Genealogy Links: Education in Selected Country -
Directory: Information & Search.
http://goo.gl/zosub

MLFHS MEMBER AREA RESOURCES

The member area is a section of the society web site www.mlfhs.org.uk which can only be accessed by members. It contains a selection of data files - still fairly small in number, but hopefully to grow quite a bit in future. The contents are:

Index to obituaries published in Manchester newspapers relating to persons cremated at Manchester Crematorium.
Over seven thousand newspaper death notices and obituaries relating to persons cremated at Manchester Crematorium 1900-1940

Index to Memorial Inscriptions
Index to memorials in several Manchester and Salford burial grounds. Search results include full transcripts of memorials.

1841 Street Index for Manchester and Salford
Provides HO107 piece and enumeration district details for streets and named buildings in Manchester and Salford census returns.

Wesleyan Methodist Historic Roll
Searchable list of 17,826 signatories to the roll transcribed from Volumes 27 and 28 by Julie Davey.

Research Guide
The latest edition of the Research Guide is available free to MLFHS members.

BMD Certificate Indexes
Indexes of miscellaneous BMD certificates held in the Resource Centre at Clayton House.

Bolton Newspaper Extracts
Geoff Haslam has transcribed items relating to Bolton and its people from early newspapers covering the period 1724 to 1790. A wide variety of topics is covered. The transcripts are presented as four PDF documents amounting in all to nearly 200 pages. There is an index which is hyperlinked to the relevant page but you can, of course, also use the Acrobat "Find" facility on each document to locate words which do not appear in the index.

Old Stretford
A lecture delivered to the members and friends of the Stretford Institute on 19 February 1878 by Mr. John E. Bailey FSA. Full text transcribed by Brian Thompson

Oldham Mill Managers, Secretaries and Salesmen 1891
Anthony Steven has compiled this useful alphabetical list of mill managers, secretaries and salesmen which dates usefully for follow-up in the 1891 census returns

Missing Persons from the Manchester Times
Julie Davey has compiled this short but potentially invaluable index of missing person advertisements published in the Manchester Times. These advertisements generally relate to persons with whom the advertiser has lost contact rather than those who have "disappeared". As always, spelling of names and places may be subject to some variation. This is work in progress so worth revisiting from time to time to check for new data.

Schoolmasters in 1841
Alphabetical List of Masters, Mistresses, Governors, Professors and Assistants in Schools in Manchester & Salford extracted from  Pigot & Slater’s Directory of Manchester & Salford, 1841 by Gillian Taylor Shaw.

Kennedy's and McConnel's Mills Manchester
Employees 1833, Extracted from Dr Hawkin's Appendix to the Factory Commission Report of 1833, p293-294) and transcribed by Julie Davey. There are four lists:
McConnel's Mill Employees
Married men employed in McConnel & Kennedy's Factories March 1819 transcribed by Geoffrey Edge
McConnel & Kennedy Married Men
Persons employed in James Kennedy's Pickford Street Mill April 1818 transcribed by Geoffrey Edge
Kennedy's Mill Pickford Street Employees
Persons employed in James Kennedy's Great Ancoats Street Mill April 1818 transcribed by Geoffrey Edge
Kennedy's Mill Great Ancoats Street Employees

Manchester Prisoner Licences
A list of prisoners (mostly female) related to Manchester and released from prison under licence between 1853 and 1887. Includes personal details and TNA PCOM3 and PCOM4 references. Extracted from TNA online index by Julie Davey.

Stockport, St. Mary Marriages 1799-1837
An index to marriages by names of brides and grooms. Includes marital status of parties, occupation of groom and whether by licence. Residence is also given for a number of parties living outside the parish. PLEASE NOTE that this index is imperfect. In producing this version from the original 1980s typescript, many errors were found. Users should refer to the original registers (available on microfilm at Manchester Archives and Local Studies) to confirm the details provided.

Call to Arms
Gillian Taylor Shaw has transcribed this list of soldiers who responded to the call for arms in January 1900. If you cannot find an ancestor in the 1901 census then there is just a possibility that they had enlisted. All the men listed are from the 1st, 2nd and 4th Battalion Manchester Volunteers and the 5th Volunteer Battalion Manchester Regiment (V.B.M.R).

Salford Poor Law Documents
Julie Davey has compiled a book containing information abstracted from poor law documents. This page contains a list of surnames for which Julie has extracted information. Clicking on any surname will link to form to contact Julie, who will provide members with the detailed information relating to the name.

Manchester Genealogist Back Issues
If you have only joined the society recently, you will have missed a lot of good articles in earlier issues of The Manchester Genealogist. Here you can download issues published from 2004 onwards. Please note that these are large 6-7Mb Adobe Acrobat files and will take a considerable time to download if you connect using dial-up. You may find it worth checking the smaller Contents pages before downloading the whole document.

Handouts at Society Meetings (PDF Format)
Copies of handouts given out at Society meetings:
Census on the Internet
1911 Census

To gain access, go to the member area page (under Online Data menu) and register.

MLFHS - A bit of Victorian history

you are of course right that in Victorian times and for long before, the church
and the law agreed that a man could not marry his deceased wife's sister.

My Victorian prayer book (from Palmer, Howe & Co,

Princess St, Manchester

,
apparently originally my gt grandfather's), shows in "A table of kindred and
affinity wherein whosoever are related are forbidden in scripture and our laws
to marry together" - "17 Wife's sister". It being apparently taken as read that
a man can not marry two at once. The Victorian table contains 30 entries each
for man and woman.

It is quite difficult to date prayer books. One guide I have spotted is the
orders in council added to the various additional bits at the end, most notably
the accession service and services for the anniversary. The table of kindred and
affinity follows these. There will be clues too in the state prayers.

My more modern prayer book which contains the date 1953, lists only 25 degrees.
It does not include wife's sister, but does include various relations formed by
an earlier marriage.

Googling for "deceased wife's sister" yields the Wikipedia article "Deceased
Wife's Sister's Marriage Act 1907", which gives much of the background. There
was at least another act removing further forbidden degrees.

Great grandfather was in fact guilty of this particular crime. In his will his
second family were styled Entwisle or Shaw (his wive's maiden name). His second
marriage was at St Thomas, Pendleton.